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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #315 on: October 08, 2007, 09:46:31 PM »
Just bumping up this thread for QueenEna1887. 
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #316 on: October 11, 2007, 09:07:06 AM »
I just took delivery of a used book and found a small clipping lodged between two pages.  It said that both King George and Queen Mary were 'helped' to die by doctors.  I am familiar with the story of the King's death being hastened so that the news could meet the deadline for the newspapers, but this is the first I have heard of QM being a similar case.  Has anyone else heard this?  Anyone have more info?

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #317 on: October 11, 2007, 08:17:44 PM »
I know the King's Doctor asked the nurse to make the injection and she refused, so the doctor wound up doing it.

I did not know Mary was euthanized.

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #318 on: October 12, 2007, 04:56:44 AM »
So the mourning peroid would not effect the coronation of QEII.

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #319 on: October 12, 2007, 09:24:26 AM »
Queen Mary, always organized and concerned with the monarchy, had left very specific instructions in her will that her funeral and subsequent mourning period be relatively low-key so that the coronation wouldn't have to be postponed or altered. She turned out to be prescient in that she died just weeks before the coronation.
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #320 on: October 17, 2007, 02:16:00 PM »
Tnanks Emerald Eyes for Bumping this thread up for me.  Like I asked before. Does anyone know May's measurements? She has the most gorgeous figure in her coming out years before she married and had kids, a figure I one day hope to develop into. Does anyone know her height back then?

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #321 on: October 17, 2007, 02:28:27 PM »
The rough measurements I believe are something like 1m 47cm :o, 40cm, 65cm.  But I could be wrong.   :P ;)
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #322 on: October 17, 2007, 05:31:27 PM »
Wasn't it a massive overdose of heroin and morphene that killed the King?The doctor prepared the syringe and handed it to the nurse,who handed it back saying "Oh no Dr. I couldn't kill the King!They didn't want the King to pass away during the day and the news be announced by the afternoon tabloids nor have men at the pub learn the news and carry on drinking and not take their hats off.So he passed away peacefully during the night and the morning broadsheets informed his subjects.I beleave when administering the dose the doctor said to the King that it would make him "feel better than a week at Bognor Regis."His Majesty groggily replied "Bugger Bognor."Last words.Though I expect the passing was blisssful rather than peaceful.
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #323 on: October 17, 2007, 06:38:52 PM »
But has anyone heard the story about Queen Mary having had her death hastened?
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #324 on: October 18, 2007, 12:33:08 AM »
Emerald Eyes could you convert her measurements into American measurements?

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #325 on: October 18, 2007, 06:18:48 AM »
American measurements?

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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #326 on: October 18, 2007, 06:44:19 AM »
American measurements: Imperial - inches. OK, I'd guess it'd be something like 46-26-38  ;)
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #327 on: October 18, 2007, 07:10:14 AM »
Right then, this is entirely conjecture on my part but its something I have given thought to before. I can't recall where I first read that QM died of lung cancer but given that she spent most of her life in the smoggy smokey London I would think that and her fondness for the Woodbines makes it more than feasible. Her fervent wishes for a trouble-free (to the Crown) end and her experiences with the death of her husband makes me think it quite possible she would have privately agreed with her doctors for her death not to be prolonged.                             *Gets a bit medical now* When someone is dying of a respiratory disorder (and for most lung cancers without early surgery, it is the primary that kills and not secondaries to other organs eg Vicky had breast cancer but it was the spread to her spine - and probably brain - that killed her) then there would be definite indications that death is inevitable and close. Patterns of breathing, called Cheyne-Stokes are a certain sign, as well as increases in signs that oxygen is no longer perfusing the body adequately.                                                                                By now the patient would be slipping in and out of consciousness - and it can happen quite suddenly as if a border had been reached - and soon goes into a coma. Sometimes there is a rattle sound of secretions from the lungs which are not being cleared and remedies for this were available then as now. Narcotics such as morphine depress the respiratory centre in the brain and cause death by its gradual ceasing to send the message to breathe. An overdose is as painless a death as I can imagine or indeed have seen (I was a nurse)                                     
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #328 on: October 18, 2007, 07:12:46 AM »
And along with her dedication to 'not being a bother' as well her well-known fastidiousness and dislike of illness and sickrooms (oh how she would have hated being an invalid!) all in all I can see that its quite within the realms of possibility that QM may have chosen such a course.
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Re: Queen Mary Pt 3
« Reply #329 on: October 18, 2007, 08:32:47 AM »
Tdora, thank you for the reply.

When it is explained like that, it does make sense to me as well that Queen Mary may have made arrangements well in advance to not prolong her death throes.  I guess these days we would call it a living will.
Also I must mention that I was being entirely facetious earlier in the thread when I posted those measurements.  We really need the smileys back.   :(
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