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Offline Lyss

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Re: Princes Volkonsky
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2007, 02:30:57 PM »
I've also read about her in Orlando Figes' "Natasha's dance". A couple of extracts from her letters are being used in the book, there is also a picture of her in there (being very ill with consumption). I thought her a very strong woman.
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Re: Princes Volkonsky
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2007, 05:50:55 PM »
Princess Zinaida Volkonskaya (1792-1862), née Princess Beloselskaya-Belozerskaya, was the wife of Prince Nicholas Volkonsky, an acknowledged beauty of her time. She was a well-educated, intelligent woman, patroness and collector of arts and also an author, actress and singer herself. She was a prominent socialite in St. Petersburg, Moscow, and also in Rome, where she spent the last 40 years of her life. Her parties in Rome were frequented by outstanding people of her time.  The renowned composer J. Rossini adapted his opera Tankred for one such party, with the princess singing the main part, and F. Mendelson, another famous musician, participating in the show.

two of her portaits:
http://www.abcgallery.com/B/bruni/bruni3.html
http://www.abcgallery.com/B/briullov/briullov28.html
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2009, 09:53:51 PM »
Yes there are decendents living. My Husband and his sisters are the last of the Wolkonsky's of a branch as recorded by Jacques Ferrand and TF Boetter. I would also love to compare the family trees as posted above however it was in Russian. I speak no Russian. When contacted by researchers it is also recorded that some records of the Wolkonsky family trees have taken a wrong turn. I am not a researcher so I can not argue this. I only understand the family trees with lines as branches.

Here's what I want to know. Prince Dimitri Nicholas Wolkonsky died in Buenos Aires Argentina in the year 2000 or 2001. My husband would like to know where his Dad is burried. They were estranged upon his death. We live in the USA so it makes for several barriers.

In spite of the time, Prince Dmitri Nikolaevich Wolkonsky was a great friend of my parents, he was prety successful in Buenos Aires amongst society, he was survived by his second wife Elisa Sybilla who passed away one year later. He is buried in the Memorail Park Cemetery at 50 km of downtown Buenos Aires. He was a great gentleman a good and loyal friend, he left here lots of friends and souvenirs. I have part of his library at home in Buenos Aires, he always wanted to go back to Russia, but he suffered from Alzheimer decease his last years. To his burianl we were around 100 people and some Russian friends like the two countesses Tatischeva, Princess Ekaterina of Russia, Princess Gortschakova, Countess von der Pahlen, Mary zu Hohenlohe Waldenburg, Princess von Dietrichstein, Prince Auerperg, and the recently died Prince Kinsky with his wife Helena.

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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2009, 03:33:53 AM »
More Volkonsky/Wolkonsky descendants are here in the US (in multiple states, for privacy I will not mention relatives because I am do not have their permission).  A book has just been published about my Grandmother (Princess Tatiana Dmitrievna Volkonsky, daughter of Prince Dmitri Volkonsky.  She changed here name to Wolkonsky after coming to the US with her sister Princess Nathalia Volkonsky.  Her brother, Prince Boris, also came to the US.)

The book is called She Cried for Mother Russia, A Princess in San Luis Obispo

By Friedl E. Semans Bell

ISBN #s

ISBN 10: 0-615-30007-3  &
ISBN-13: 978-0-615-30007-8

I believe it is available on Amazon for those who are interested.  (I have no commercial interest in this book, family history & history in general are my only ties to this book.)

Regards,

Barbara

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« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2009, 05:43:07 AM »
Portrait of princess Maria Michailovna Volconskaya by Makovsky "http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu120/bednayaliza/marievolkonskaya.jpg"

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« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2009, 07:46:58 AM »
Amazing !!!

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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2009, 07:09:56 AM »
Maria Volkonskaya (Raevskaya), who went with her husband to Siberia after 14th December 1825, picture by Socolov "http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu120/bednayaliza/50291650_volkonskm.jpg"

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Re: Princes Volkonsky
« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2009, 07:09:25 PM »
Quote:
.....wasn't he gay?

Why do you ask, have you been with him?

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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2009, 07:35:41 PM »
He may have married but wasn't he gay?

>>>I did not pass any nasty comment about the Princes gender<<<

I think you and the readers are smart enough to understand what you did - intentended or unintentended??

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Igor Stravinsky & Robert Craft, Memories and Commentaries, London, London, New-York, 1959, p. 35-36 :
“Already a celebrity when I first knew him, Nijinsky was to become even more celebrated shortly afterwards becaause of a scandal. Diaghilev had taken charge of his costuming - they were living together - with the result that Nijinsky appeared at the Imperial Theatre in the tightest tights anyone had ever seen (in fact, an athletic support padded with handkerchiefs), and little else. The Tsar’s mother had attended a performance and was shocked. Diaghilev and Prince Wolkonsky, the director of the Theatre and a man of similar sensibilities, were thought to have conspired against public decency. The Tsar himself was shocked. He alluded to the matter in conversation with Diaghilev, but was so curtly answered that Diaghilev was never thereafter in official good odour. I discovered this for myself when Diaghilev asked me to approach Ambassador Izvolsky in an attempt to secure a passport for a dancer of conscription age. When Izvolsky understood my request to be on Diaghilev’s behalf, he became quite coldly diplomatic. (But I was often Diaghilev’s ambassador in later years, especially his “financial” ambassador - or, as he called me, his tax-collector.) To return to the Imperial Theatre scandal, the truth is that the exhibitionist was not Nijinsky but Diaghilev. Nijinsky was always very serious and high-minded and, in my judgement, never conscious of his performances from Diaghilev’s point of view. I was even more certain of this later, in Paris, when he danced the Afternoon of a Faun. This ballet’s famous representation of the act of love was Diaghilev’s idea. Even so, Nijinsky’s performance was such marvellously concentrated art that only a fool could have been shocked by it - but then, I adored the ballet myself.”

Of course Stravinsky says many things ... that are sometimes true and sometimes not…
Prince Serguei Volkonsky was NOT the director of the Imperial Theatre at this time (1910), he had been ten years earlier, in 1900. A GREAT friend INDEED of Diaghilev then, their collaboration at the Imperial Theatre had led to an hysterical dispute, and to the abrupt dismissal of Diaghilev. They got reconciled in Rome in April 1911.











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Re: Princes Volkonsky
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2009, 05:06:53 PM »
Thank you for letting me know where my father in law is burried. He left his first wife and 3 children when they were young never to look back. They (his daughters) heard from him rarely but were wondering where their father was burried. Thank you for sharing that with me. I will pass it on to his daughters the location of Prince Dimitri Nicholas Wolkonsky.
Sincerely,
Martha C. Wolkonsky

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Re: Princes Volkonsky
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2012, 01:43:03 PM »
In France, in 2011, are still living - :
Prince Alexandre WOLKONSKY who has 2 children = a son Prince Cyril and a daughter Marina.
Prince Cyril and his wife has 3 children
Marina and her husband has 2 children
I do not know more !

In France this family name is written with W and not V : is it the same family ? I guess yes but ?

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Re: Princes Volkonsky
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2013, 07:04:52 AM »
Thank you for letting me know where my father in law is burried. He left his first wife and 3 children when they were young never to look back. They (his daughters) heard from him rarely but were wondering where their father was burried. Thank you for sharing that with me. I will pass it on to his daughters the location of Prince Dimitri Nicholas Wolkonsky.
Sincerely,
Martha C. Wolkonsky

Does anyone know the maiden name of the first wife of Pr Dmitri Nikolievitch Volkonsky(Germ:Wolkonsky) of the lesser line?