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« on: August 02, 2005, 02:07:34 PM »
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These pictures were taken by Prokudin-Gorskii, are any of these royalty?





That kind of looks like Nicholas and Alexandra.





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« on: August 02, 2005, 04:06:03 PM »
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Can someone tell me more about this photographer? I agree, these pictures do look modern..however, in my humble opinion,

1. Looks like Queen Alexandra
2. I am amazed at how much this woman resembles Princess Ingeborg of Denmark/Sweden!
3. The man is not right for Nicky, and the woman too short for Alix.
4. No idea!

Can't get over picture number 2...where did you find these pictures?

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« on: August 02, 2005, 04:09:26 PM »
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Yea where did they come from?
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« on: August 03, 2005, 12:28:19 AM »
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He is very famous photographer of the beginning of the 20th century. He was a war photographer too.
His photos of Russo-Japanese war are well known.

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« on: August 03, 2005, 02:37:36 AM »
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I think the first one looks very like Toria of Wales.
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« on: August 03, 2005, 05:05:32 AM »
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Sergie Prokudin-Gorskii was the first known photographer to use a system which produced coloured photographs.  These have not been coloured in later.   The system he used meant that he took the same photograph 3 times, once with a red plate, once with a blue plate and once with a yellow plate.  When these were put together you got a colour photograph.

I'm not sure these are photos of the imperial family, I know for sure that the third one is not, it is of a middle class family.  I have a book of these photos and they are truly stunning.

Prokudin-Gorskii was invited to the Alexander Palace to show his slides to the Imperial Family who were apparently bowled over by them. He left Russia after the revolution and I fear that most of his plates were left behind.  He took some with him to Paris and these have been published.  Whether he took any of the Imperial Family I don't know but if he did I fear these have been lost to us.
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« on: August 03, 2005, 05:50:46 AM »
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There was a thread about him and whether or not there are any photos of the IF in color. I think the general consensus was that there weren't any.  Sad
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« on: August 03, 2005, 08:08:38 AM »
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Here's some info about him with some of his (non-royal) colored photos so you can compare:

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/gorskii.html

The 3rd photo Dss_S posted looks like it could be from there given the background, also the 4th.

Also here:

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0105/russia.html

While he attracted the attention of royals (and NII commissioned him to travel Russia photographing the country) it doesn't seem that he photographed any member of the imperial family or their relatives.
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Study of Three Generations, Zlatoust
A. P. Kalganov poses with his son and granddaughter for a portrait in the industrial town of Zlatoust in the Ural Mountain region of Russia. The son and granddaughter are employed at the Zlatoust Arms Plant--a major supplier of armaments to the Russian military since the early 1800s. Kalganov displays traditional Russian dress and beard styles, while the two younger generations have more Westernized, modern dress and hair styles
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The moderate, Mediterranean-like climate of the Black Sea region allowed cultivation of crops that would not grow in most parts of the empire, such as tea and cotton. Sukhumi, on the east coast of the Black Sea in what is now the northwestern part of the Republic of Georgia, had an important botanical garden and experimentation station. Shown here is a stand of cotton plants at the Sukhumi Botanical Gardens.

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« on: August 04, 2005, 06:36:48 PM »
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Prokudin-Gorskii did take pictures of the Imperial Family, but I don't know exactly what happend to them. He also took with him when he left Russia a photograph that he took of the Tsarevich!

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« on: August 04, 2005, 08:58:48 PM »
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The system he used meant that he took the same photograph 3 times, once with a red plate, once with a blue plate and once with a yellow plate.  When these were put together you got a colour photograph.


He was waaay ahead of his time then. This was the same 3-color system Technicolor patented and made famous in the movies starting in the 1930s (although Technicolor had developed a 2-color system in the 1920s which was used in the original Ben-Hur). Ironically the Soviet/Russian film studios did all their work in black and white even into Stalin's age mainly because they could not AFFORD color like Hollywood. The Soviets only used color after WWII mainly because they stole the color film process that the Germans had perfected (which had a name which I forget) which unlike Technicolor did not use the three different film/color process but one strip of film. I say stole because the Germans had patented it before the war but the Soviets took the method with them when they took Berlin in the fall of the Nazis, without payment. The German system became Sovcolor in the Soviet Union, Eastman Color in the US, and FujiColor in Japan and is the basis of all motion picture film stock today because it is cheaper to make, to film, to develop than Technicolor (what had to use a giant camera so they could film the same scene with three different strips of film).

Ironically now all these years later it turns out the films using Eastman Color (from Hollywood starting in the 50s) are fading and in need of constant restoration. While the Technicolor three-plate/film process shows little sign of fading (just look at the crispness Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind). This could explain partly why Prokudin-Gorskii's pictures with their saturated 3-color style still look so vibrant 100+ years later.

Back to topic - I think we discussed Prokudin-Gorskii's color pictures of the IF of the family in a previous thread. How wonderful it would be if they still exist somewhere.
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« on: August 18, 2005, 03:42:25 AM »
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This thread may not last very long, but what the heck?

The Romanovs seem to have embraced the medium with an enthusiasm unmatched by most other royal families.
Off hand, does anyone know when the first photos were taken of the Romanovs? Who was the subject of the first photo? Actual sovereign couples aside, what Romanov might've been most photographed?
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« on: August 18, 2005, 05:46:03 AM »
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Off hand I would say that perhaps Victoria Melita was the most photographed? As a granddaughter of QV, daughter of a reigning Duke (at least after 1892-3), sister of a flamboyant and popular Queen (Missy), wife of a reigning Grand Duke (Hesse), caught in a scandalous divorce and remarriage and then marriage to a Russian Grand Duke (and posing in the appropriate jewels afterwards) and then having her husband declare himself the de facto Emperor she had quite a lot of publicity.
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« on: August 18, 2005, 07:34:05 AM »
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The first original photos that we know of are of Alexander II.  The first first photograph ever taken was in 1838 (aside: I've seen it personally, it is here in the collection of the Ransom Center at the Univ. of Texas). So, the first photos in Petersburg were probably sometime in the 1845 period or so.
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