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101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« on: August 04, 2005, 12:37:50 PM »
(We do this on another board I'm on -- not a history board, but I think it could be a good way to keep things straight.  The rules: no discussion here -- there are other threads for that -- just a list.  I'll start....)

1.Princess Xenia of Russian recognized her.

2.Alexandra Tegleva-Gilliard confirmed identical hallux valgus.

3.Distinctive "Romanov" blue eyes
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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2005, 12:41:26 PM »
(4) Gleb Botkin recognized her.
(5) the forensic evidence introduced into the German court about her ears supports her claim.
(6) damnit, we all want her to be Anastasia!
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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2005, 12:53:43 PM »
7.  "The Man with the Pockets"

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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2005, 01:06:16 PM »
8. She remembered the incident about her and her siblings throwing paper balls (?willing to be corrected) at passersby.

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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2005, 02:09:10 PM »
9.  Identical Handwriting
10. Lili von Dehn recognized her
11.  She spoke Russian, French, English and (High) German
12.  Tatiana Botkin recognized her
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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2005, 02:19:20 PM »
13. The scars
14. Princess Martha of Sweden, Crown-Princess of Norway believed her.
15.  former prima ballerina Mathilde Kschessinska, also met the her and believed her to be AN.

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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2005, 06:00:02 PM »
16, Their ears were alike in many ways
17, People said she spoke Russian in her sleep (this might not count because I don't know if that was doccumented or a myth)

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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2005, 07:27:18 PM »
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16, Their ears were alike in many ways
17, People said she spoke Russian in her sleep (this might not count because I don't know if that was doccumented or a myth)

It was documented, I post it with the source on another thread. I will try to find it later. I can't remember where I read it....senior moment here.
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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2005, 07:33:50 PM »
you're a senior?  I thought you had your h.s. diploma already.....

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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2005, 10:41:42 PM »
18. Peter Kurth speaks of similarities of the hands.
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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2005, 08:59:38 PM »
19-She had childhood memories that she couldn't have read in any way in any book (Peter Kurth; Dominique Auclères; Harriet von Rathlef; Jimmy Blair Lovell; Tatiana Botkina, many other sources)

20- She had the same wild behavior than Anastasia (This source is not very reliable. The source it's ...me.  ;D)

21- She spoke in a very similar way than some of the Romanovs- I mean the level of her voice, the way she pronounce some words, lowering her voice tone  in the end of the phrases. (This was said by Nancy Leeds. I read it in "The Riddle of Anna Anderson" by Peter Kurth)

22- She walked an moved in the same way that Anastasia and some other Romanovs did. (Xenia Leeds and her daughter Nancy- Tatiana Botkina-Gleb Botkin-  In Peter Kurth book "The Riddle of Anna Anderson")

23- She laughed with the same kind of little laugh, very similar to a "squirrel one", and watching people with the corner of her eyes and not directly in their faces (Tatiana Botkina and Felix Dassel - Peter Kurth book: "The Riddle of Anna Anderson"; Jimmy Blair Lovell's book: "Anastasia; the Lost Princess". )

24-She corrected some wrong information (about the Grand Duchess Hospital) that Felix Dassel gave her on purpose to confound her and gave the right one

25- She spoke English in her dreams and under anesthesia ( Nurses in Dalldorf said it- Doctor Rudnev said it- Zinaida Tolstaïa said it. Peter Kurth; Dominique Auclères;Jimmy Blair Lovell)

26-She spoke French, but not very correctly when she was travelling in the "Berengaria" toward the USA (Same sources than above post. Remember that the Grand Duchess spoke French but not very well. As Alexandra herself, they aren't used to this language. In the other hand, Alexei did, for he always was talking to M. Gilliard)

27- She can WRITE in Russian. The graphologist wanted her to speak in her native tongue, but she plainly refused. Whe she leaves the room, they managed to find some notebooks where there were Anna Anderson's callygraphy in Russian - yes; that's mean cyrillic alphabet- for she was teaching Russian to Mrs. Heydebrand, the old lady who was living with her in Untenlengenhardt (Peter Kurth and Jimmy Blair Lovell) She always spoke Russian to her two little parrots and said the names of the flowers, equally in Russian.

28- She put perfume in Shura Tegleva's hands, for she must know an Anastasia's little joke when she was a little girl: AN would pour perfume in Shura's hand to her to pour it in Anastasia's forehead. She wants to smell "like a bouquet of flowers" (Peter Kurth; Jimmy Blair Lovell)

29- She said to Lili Denh, who show her an Alexandra's white and black photography, that Alix was wearing a brown dress in it (Jimmy Blair Lovell- Peter Kurth quotes that Lili recognized Anastasia, but he doesn't write about the photo)

30- Pierre Gilliard (who, later, states that AA had not the slighest ressemblance to Anastasia) called her "Imperial Highnes" when he saw her for the first time, and urged the doctors to move her from the St. Mary's Hospital to the "Mommsen" (Peter Kurth, Jimmy Blair Lovell, Alain Decaux, etc)

31- Anna Anderson was found bawling her eyes out, over the Imperial Family photos. She seemed very touched when she saw a pic of tatiana and cryed "Her Face! Her Face! " as she pointed it.  She also cried watching Alexandra in a family photo, saying: "My mother! My mother!" (Peter Kurth; Jimmy Lovell, etc)

32- This is the more important reason to me: when she was over the effects of anesthesia and delirant, she NEVER betrayed herself calling any of the Schanzkowska family member. She never said she was FS, but always Anastasia. She always called out: "Veronica! Veronica!" (Veronica was Alexander Tchaykovsky's sister) or "Mother! Mother! Where is my mother?" (When she spoke about the Imperial Family, she always talked about "How wonderful Alexandra was"). She never said: "Gertrude!" or "Felix!" or "Maria Juliana" etc.  (All sources quoted above)

To be continued!  ;D

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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2005, 09:05:24 PM »
RealAnastasia,

You amaze me sometimes. You really did your homework.

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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2005, 12:34:40 PM »
AA was AN because Teddy says he is in contact with the MOTHER SHIP which changed Anastasia's DNA to that of an obscure Polish factory worker who thought she was at first Tatiana but then read the magazine article again and remembered she was the younger daughter.... ::)

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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2005, 12:44:08 PM »
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AA was AN because Teddy says he is in contact with the MOTHER SHIP which changed Anastasia's DNA to that of an obscure Polish factory worker who thought she was at first Tatiana but then read the magazine article again and remembered she was the younger daughter.... ::)


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Re: 101 Reasons AA was GD Anastasia
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2005, 12:53:29 PM »
I'm not ridiculing anyone.....