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The Suvorovs
« on: August 08, 2005, 12:43:02 AM »
Love your website. I've been trying to find pictures of my father's Great Grandfather, [on his mother's side] Alexander Vasliyevich Suvorov. I remember when my husband and I visited Russia in 1975, we were taken to the great hall of portraits of famous military leaders in Russia. On the wall I found my great great grandfathers portrait, in full uniform. Unfortunately, I was unable to take a picture of his portrait. Other than seeing that particular portrait, I've never found nor seen this portrait, or any others of him. Would you, Bob, or any of your readers know, or have actual pictures, or copies of pictures of him at different times of his life. Also wonder if there were any other family portraits of his family, etc. I don't have any pictures of anyone due circumstances as many Russian families, whose families escaped the revolution. I wonder if there were any pictures of his home, etc. Thank you again so very much for your infinite kindnesses, and availability to reach out on this wonderful site.
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2005, 09:23:47 PM »
Dear Tanya,

What a DISTINGUISHED name to have in the family.  Ya cerdichno vac pozdravlaiyou.  Pozdravlaiyouc.

It is a name that every Russian knows, even the Soviets, etc.

Here is one link with a portrait of your distiguished relative:

http://www.nndb.com/people/324/000098030/

Here is his musem in Moscow which I hope that you had the opportunity to visit.

http://www.cityvision2000.com/sightseeing/suvorov.htm

I do not know where you live, forgive me, but if you live in the New York City area, I would like you to put in touch with Princess T. Galitzine of the Russian Nobility Association.  I am sure that that they would be honored to receive you and have you speak on your relative.  WHAT A NAME!

He is considered one of the three beat military commands of ALL times.

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2005, 03:24:54 AM »
Dear AlexP,
Thank you for your kindness of reply. I'm indeed proud to have this name value in family membership. I of course have read his long impressive history. Thank you for your heartfelt congratulations. Thank you for the link to the portrait. Unfortunately, its not the same portrait as we saw in the great hall in the Winter Palace. This I believe is a very early portrait of him, of the link you so graciously sent on. In regarsds to the Museum, it was still undergoing repair. I wrote when we returned to the states, via e-mail, many times to the museum, but received no response. To make a long story short, I was baptized in the United States. I was given by my parents, an understanding, there lived in Los Angeles [Encino, CA.], a Princess Galitzine. I was told she was, and had been chosen to be my Godmother. Now I'm a bit more confused, when you say there is a Princess Galitzine in New York. I would indeed care to connect with her and go further in my search. I wish you and yours the very best, with good health always. Thanking you again to respond to my above querry. I remain most, Respectfully, Tatiana [ Tania ]  [no y's] smile !
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2005, 05:04:32 AM »
This morning on the Russian news (NTV) a magnificent account was presented featuring the 13th generational descendant of the illustrious Suvorov.

The individual concerned found a faded photographic album depicting his ancestral home and family members. Fate brought those images into reality.  With patience he managed to find the estate in the Yaroslavl district based on those sepia faded photographs. The two storey residence was found to be in a state of disrepair, recognizable but quite uninhabitable.  

We had the privilege of viewing inside this estate, which he had the good fortune to acquire. Presently it is undergoing reconstruction to its former glory with the assistance of locals and the new owner.

Nearby in the lake surrounded by graceful trees, swam a magnificent white swan giving one the impression that not everything had changed.

It was a wonderful story ...  :)
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2005, 05:36:41 AM »
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This morning on the Russian news (NTV) a magnificent account was presented featuring the 13th generational descendant of the illustrious Suvorov.

The individual concerned found a faded photographic album depicting his ancestral home and family members. Fate brought those images into reality.  With patience he managed to find the estate in the Yaroslavl district based on those sepia faded photographs. The two storey residence was found to be in a state of disrepair, recognizable but quite uninhabitable.  

We had the privilege of viewing inside this estate, which he had the good fortune to acquire. Presently it is undergoing reconstruction to its former glory with the assistance of locals and the new owner.

Nearby in the lake surrounded by graceful trees, swam a magnificent white swan giving one the impression that not everything had changed.

It was a wonderful story ...  :)


Belochka,

I mean to ask you...where did the report place the Manor House in the Yaroslav District?  Can you describe the estate for us?  It is a typically classical Manor House in shades of cream white and yellow?  It is a simple manor house?  More details please.  Was it totally gutted inside?  Any information on this television report that you can provide is most appreciated.

Look so many in Russia, I idolized Suvorov.

Thanks, Belochka

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2005, 12:57:32 PM »
I do not know about Yaroslavl, but there are two estates of Suvorov , which are museums now :
Kamenka of Novgorod Region
Konchanskoe - Suvorovskoe of Novgorod Region

There was also his manor estate near Lakinsk city
of Vladimir Region.  I have heard that there is a plan to build an estate again, because almost nothing remained.

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2005, 11:17:26 PM »
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Belochka,

I mean to ask you...where did the report place the Manor House in the Yaroslav District?  Can you describe the estate for us?  It is a typically classical Manor House in shades of cream white and yellow?  It is a simple manor house?  More details please.  Was it totally gutted inside?  


Hi Alex,

The precise location was not identified in the report, if it was then I missed the name.

The manor house walls were indeed a lemon yellow with white ornate windows. The centrally positioned veranda was supported by metallic posts at each corner and in obvious need of repair. It was not a grand paradnoya front entrance - just simple and functional almost at ground level.  Of what we were permitted to view, much of the physical structure appeared intact from the exterior. It was however suffering the ravages of harsh weather and decades of neglect. The report was careful not to show the entire house from all aspects.

One ancient sepia photograph was raised in front of the residence for "us" to compare the general appearance identifying part of the façade enveloped by trees. One could clearly identify that the two images were indeed a perfect match. At some distance from the house stood a grouping of trees (from where the photograph was taken) which were parted in the middle to reveal what presumably was the main allée.

Practically nothing was shown inside this residence. The new owner cautiously stood in front of one doorway from which one could observe that beyond lay a series of well light sunny rooms. From where the man was being interviewed, at that corner of that room I could only see two adjoining walls that were undergoing repairs. No idea was offered as to the overall condition of the house inside. What remained and what was lost was not mentioned.

I believe the main focus of this story demonstrated a heartwarming approach taken by one man as to how he initiated the process to retrieve a long forgotten rural estate which in this case - once belonged to his family - the Suvorovi. His connection to that property was validated by what lay in his hands.    




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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2005, 03:30:10 PM »
Dear Members,
To all whom have been so kind in response to my initial inquiry on Alexander Vasliyevich Suvorov. I must apologize as I have not quite yet, understood how to navigate this site. Just realized there are 8 postings. You all must have thought I had disregarded your postings, or that my manners surely were misplaced. Quite the contrary. I'm very much moved you have sent on information about this fine gentleman, etc. As I had only the very thinest of basic historical facts, your input has made it ever so much more rich in content. I thank you all from the bottom of my heart. Each day I come now with renewed hope that I will find something more. It sustains me muchly, as does the whole beautiful website of the Alexander Palace Time Machine. I share it all with my family, whom take now, even more pride than before at the connect to history, and the name Suvorov. I have no pictures, nor actual paper connect of the past. Now, because of this site, and the many of you, you have made the words, and the lineage of my father, more real than it has ever been, for me. This alone is and will forever remain gently protected. It will be kept safe for future generations, far more than any jewels or objects could ever be. In this manner it cannot be taken by anyone, but shared with direct pride and respect. God Bless You All.
Tatiana [Tania]
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2013, 09:07:55 AM »
Love your website. I've been trying to find pictures of my father's Great Grandfather, [on his mother's side] Alexander Vasliyevich Suvorov. I remember when my husband and I visited Russia in 1975, we were taken to the great hall of portraits of famous military leaders in Russia. On the wall I found my great great grandfathers portrait, in full uniform. Unfortunately, I was unable to take a picture of his portrait. Other than seeing that particular portrait, I've never found nor seen this portrait, or any others of him. Would you, Bob, or any of your readers know, or have actual pictures, or copies of pictures of him at different times of his life. Also wonder if there were any other family portraits of his family, etc. I don't have any pictures of anyone due circumstances as many Russian families, whose families escaped the revolution. I wonder if there were any pictures of his home, etc. Thank you again so very much for your infinite kindnesses, and availability to reach out on this wonderful site.

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