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Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2007, 02:44:30 PM »
I also looked into the perfumes but couldn't find the kinds they liked.
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« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2007, 03:27:25 PM »
I wonder if any of thier dress makers are still in business. I know they did buy from Harrod's of London, which is still in business. I may email or call them and see if they keep any records of purchases from any of the Imperial family's of Europe in thier archives. Wouldn't that be interesting?

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« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2007, 04:12:59 PM »
I wonder if any of thier dress makers are still in business. I know they did buy from Harrod's of London, which is still in business. I may email or call them and see if they keep any records of purchases from any of the Imperial family's of Europe in thier archives. Wouldn't that be interesting?
Yes it sure would be interesting if you email them about that. ;)


Today the Coty compant is still in business it was founded in 1904. These are some company brands they own.
Cody

Coty Beauty

adidas
Aspen
Astor
Calgon
Celine Dion
David and Victoria Beckham
Esprit
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Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2007, 07:28:50 PM »
I also looked into the perfumes but couldn't find the kinds they liked.

Nicholas and Alexandra pg 129:
"All four girls used Coty perfume. Olga preferred 'Rose The,' Tatiana favored 'Jasmin de Corse,' Anastasia stayed faithfully with 'Violette' and Marie, who tried many scents, always came back to 'Lilias.' "

Massie lists Lili Dehn as his source for that info.
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« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2007, 08:28:34 PM »
What type of purfume brand in the company corty? My favorite scent was always violet but I love the Vera Wang purfume and Jennifer Lopez kind. I wonder if any of the grand duchesses used camra's, jewelery or clothes are on sale ???

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« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2007, 09:53:02 PM »
i]Nicholas and Alexandra[/i] pg 129:
"All four girls used Coty perfume. Olga preferred 'Rose The,' Tatiana favored 'Jasmin de Corse,' Anastasia stayed faithfully with 'Violette' and Marie, who tried many scents, always came back to 'Lilias.' "

It sounds like all the perfumes are made from flowers. I wonder if their perfumes simply smelled like the flower it was named after or more complex.

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Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2007, 05:30:54 PM »
The girls only used simple, clean flower essences; nothing musky or really strong. Alexandra didn't like them to use anything like that.
"Господь им дал дар по молитвам их размягчать окаменелые наши сердца за их страдания..Мне думается, что если люди будут молиться Царской Cемье, оттают сердца с Божией помощью."

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Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2007, 06:43:54 PM »
I have emailed Harrod's of London late last night. I asked them if they keep an archive for the store. If they do, I will inquire if they have sales for the Russian Imperial family. I wish I had thought about this when I was in London and I could have spoken to them in person. I will also inquire about a catalogue from early 1900's.

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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2007, 12:47:51 AM »
The girls only used simple, clean flower essences; nothing musky or really strong. Alexandra didn't like them to use anything like that.

I don't think it was Alexandra's taste at all what forced girls to wear flower scents. These were the most widely wore essences at the time. Even grown up women would wear them. More complex parfums were made near to the 20'. I have catalogs of old great magazines (like "Harrods" but here , in Argentina were I live) from the times of OTMA, and flower scents (specially made from roses or Jazmine) were women favorites. "Coty" was the mot famous perfume mark and it still was until the 60's (of course, scents had changed by then!  ;)). I read somewhere in this Forums, that Coty had released an old perfume from OTMA's time "White Rose"...Maybe you may purchase it. It was not really expensive. Old perfume marks (that include scented soaps and bath foam among their products) as "Coty" and "Yardley" are still working, and you may wear today the same scents than OTMA, so long ago, specially the lavender ones.

I'll confess I'm pretty classic in my tastes (an old Victorian lady, I must say...Even if I have 35!  ;D ) and that I still wear flower essences rather than strong ones like musk, or Vera Wang ones. My favorite scent is Jazmine, and after it, Rose. I also likes Violet and Lavender, but also Citric scents and classical English eau de colognes to pour over me after a bath to feel really fresh. I think all this fits my personality, rather old fashiones, fresh and homely.

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Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2007, 08:50:37 AM »
RealAnastasia, do you think you could look through your Harrod's catalogue and see if any of these scents are listed.
The Rose, Jasmin de Corse, Violette, or Lilias Quoted from Sarushka.
If so, could you post the picture and write up about it here?  I would love to see that.

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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2007, 05:56:40 PM »
Most of I have is clothes, hats, purses, fans and some scents but unfortunately not these of "Coty". I may scan the dresses, purses (and even underwear catalogs... ;) ) and so from 1898 to 1918 , since I recently opened my photobucket account. However, I know these were widely known at the time, since my own great-grandmama was a seller of a great magazine "Harrods Style", in Rosario's city, named "La Favorita", and she told me that these were the most sold scents to people of high class. She loved them too (and there were more flower scents than Rose Thé, Violet, Lilas or Jasmin de Corse), and she would wore them. How sad she never tought to save one of the little bottles for me to see... :P . She began to work in "La Favorita" exactly in 1916, when she was 17. She died in 1990 at 91.

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Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2007, 03:13:10 AM »
This looks promising. Could this be what Olga used? It was around in 1904. It looks like if you want to get ahold of items the Romanovs used, it's going to cost you a pretty penny.  :-\



I believe after much searching, I've found Tatiana's.

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Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2007, 07:00:39 AM »
This looks promising. Could this be what Olga used?

I'm not sure. Th name doesn't match. I forgot the accent mark last time: Rose Thé.


I think you've definitely found Tatiana's, though.
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Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2007, 10:50:10 AM »
RA, Alexandra's preference for light and clean perfumes on her girls more than likely did influence OTMA. I remember reading not very long ago.

I think Clockwork has found matches. I don't think the title of Olga's is a problem. 'Rose, The' and 'La Rose' are the same but just in different wording. I hope someone can find Lilas and Violette! Violet is my favorite and I really would like those perfumes.  ;D

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Re: Everyday life of NAOTMAA - your quick questions
« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2007, 10:57:26 AM »
I just found a Coty perfume called, "La Violette Pourpre". This perfume is more than likely the kind Anastasia liked. From what I've read, it was created in 1906 by Coty and smells terrific. It has a soft, woody, and floral smell all at once.
I also found a "Lilas", but it's from 1922.
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