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Offline Padawan Ryan

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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2008, 10:44:01 AM »
When I first read about it on Wikipedia (and yes I know that
Wikipedia isn't always correct) I decided to read up on some
More websites about it...I had a laugh, thinking, "Is anyone really gonna believe this?"

It's common knowledge that Alix loved her children regardless,
And it wouldn't matter if she had a fifth daughter before Alexei,
She would still love and nurture it as she did her other four daughters.
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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2008, 10:08:46 PM »
The Lovell book had a story about how AA met Degraffe and called her 'sister' or something like that. It only made them both look nuttier than they were!
That's kind of similar to when the Polish Alexei claimant met Eugenia Smith.Suposedly they recognized each other, that's ridiculous.I never read that whole part of Lovell's book (the whole CdG chapter), it was kind of pointless.At least AA claimed to be a real person, even though she wasn't really Anastasia.
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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2008, 09:41:06 AM »
I have Lovell's book because I picked it up at a "trash" sale at my local library for $1.  I haven't read it yet, but now I think I must!

Thanks to the very generous Phil Tomaselli - I have Blood Relative about another Alexei that I haven't gotten to yet either.  Time to begin reading about "imperial claimants"!!


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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2008, 09:48:58 AM »
I have had the book for years but now forgotton the contents and will have to read it again but not until I have worked through all the other books that I have recently bought on the Romonov's.
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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2008, 06:46:33 AM »
Just a lie they only had 4 daugthers

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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2008, 05:17:56 PM »
Well, this IS the board for myths!


I have heard the 5th daughter story before. It's just that, of course. A story.

I've never heard the story of Maria having a baby at Ekaterinburg, though. It's chances of being true are about zero, but imagine the scandal if it indeed had happened.  :o

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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2008, 02:05:04 PM »
lol if we imagine she was pregnant - Alexandra's face!! ;)

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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2008, 02:18:18 PM »
Somehow I think it wouldn´t be funny at all.....

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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2008, 04:58:28 AM »
The story is very very stupid.
Nicolas and Alejandra were a good parents. They would not abandon one daughter.
The people already it does not know what to invent
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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2009, 03:16:47 AM »
This story can't be true. Alexandra would certainly not abandon a daughter, especially when she already had four...

P.S.: If someone has pics of Susanna De Graaff, do post them here. I couldn't find any, though.

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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2009, 04:56:22 AM »
This story can't be true. Alexandra would certainly not abandon a daughter, especially when she already had four...


I'm agree with you.

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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2009, 06:28:33 PM »
The thought of a 5th Romanov daughter is plausible because Alex and Nicholas knew that because of the blood disorder Alexei would not live long enough or have the physical ability to rule, they needed a male heir. Even today it is shocking to some people when older women have babies, how more so in Alex day it would have been socially unacceptable, she had grown daughters. That is precisely why they would have kept it a secret, that she was even expecting, or that the baby was a girl, so they didn't announce it. Let's not forget even Alexei's illness was kept a secret for years after he was born, (see newspaper clipping this website) family, servants and those close to the family would have kept it a secret, it was a different time when loyalty meant more than it does today. I do not believe the woman in Nederlands is a Romanov, and I am not saying they gave the 5th daughter away. Just plausible justification for reasoning on a 5th daughter.

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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2009, 10:28:35 AM »
I love seeing the pictures of the claimant? but I never thought that some of them were a true Romanov !!!!! In short: nicola, alexander, Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia and Alexei, died at home Ipatiev! hours to say that Nicholas and Alexander had a daughter 5 is absurd! What do you think?

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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2009, 10:44:46 AM »
I don't know what to say, personally I don't believe in that story. But I have heard stories about 5th daughters, from 1902.
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Re: Fifth Daughter Claimant - Alexandra DeGraffe
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2009, 11:26:41 AM »
say what you mean by "always say the same about Anna Anderson over and over"?