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French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« on: August 18, 2005, 09:40:45 AM »
Okay, being a big jewellery geek, I am always looking for more info/pics on jewels of any type, provenence or description.
Can anyone enlighten me on the marvelous world of French royal jewels?

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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2005, 09:52:16 AM »
Well, the most famous French jewels I can think of come from the famous Diamond Necklace Affair. Perhaps someone can find a pic of the necklace?
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2005, 12:22:06 PM »
The Marie Antoinette's necklace is a recreation...

My photos of the jewels in the Louvre:
Évrard BAPST, Frédéric BAPST, duchesse d'Angoulême's Tiara
1819 - 1820



idem, necklace; Paul-Nicolas MENIÈRE Évrard BAPST,
Frédéric BAPST
,duchesse d'Angoulème's bracelets 1816 et 1825 ; Augustin DUFLOS, Claude RONDÉ, Louis XV's crown 1722



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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2005, 12:30:09 PM »
Queen Marie -Amélie set, coming from Queen Horthense de Beauharnais, re-buy in 1821 by King Louis Philippe for his wife.


Gabriel LEMONNIER, Empress Eugébie crown, 1855 (executed for "l'Exposition Universelle" of 1855); idem, Empres Eugénie tiara 1853

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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2005, 12:33:03 PM »
Beautiful pics, Lisa.
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2005, 02:30:45 PM »
Those emeralds!  Oh my Dog!!  I am swooning :o :o :o
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2005, 02:52:40 PM »
The sapphires are lovely, too.
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2005, 07:41:01 PM »
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Well, the most famous French jewels I can think of come from the famous Diamond Necklace Affair. Perhaps someone can find a pic of the necklace?



Actually Prince, it was NEVER part of the French Crown Jewels, Marie Antoinette never actually purchased the necklace, and  Madame de la Motte & her group duped the Cardinal Rohan into purchasing it for the Queen, however she considered Rohan one of her enemies.
This necklace and the scandal surrounding it was the beginning of the French Revolution.   However the necklace was broken up by de la Motte, and the stones sold in London.


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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2005, 08:09:18 PM »
As I recall from Twinning [Crown Jewels of Europe]  most of the French collection was recycled, from one king to the next. What was not lost in the revolution was even recycled for the Bonapartes. I think Martybn has the best source of reference on the French Crown Jewels. [despite my reputation, I did balk at the price to add it to my library!]
The infamous "Diamond Necklace" has always fascinated me, as it is so pivotal to the story of MA.  I know someone who had a copy made [crystal] and wears it now & then for costume.  I have often contemplated buying it  as I guess I am the only one foolish enough to be interested. But, the thing is HUGE [where to wear it !] and UGLY !
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2005, 12:56:46 AM »
Marie Antoinette's earrings(swoon,swoon.)




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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2005, 04:07:08 AM »
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Actually Prince, it was NEVER part of the French Crown Jewels, Marie Antoinette never actually purchased the necklace, and  Madame de la Motte & her group duped the Cardinal Rohan into purchasing it for the Queen, however she considered Rohan one of her enemies.
This necklace and the scandal surrounding it was the beginning of the French Revolution.   However the necklace was broken up by de la Motte, and the stones sold in London.



Yes, yes, I know this, Michael G. What I meant was I thought the Necklace was perhaps the most famous piece of jewelry to be in any way connected with the royalty of France. I know the saga of the Necklace - Antonia Fraser examins it in detail in her Marie Antoineete: the Journey.

Can anyone give me more info on a jewel that Louis XII gave to Mary Rose Tudor when he married - the heart of Tuscany, or the Star of Tuscany or something like that, purported to be one of the most fabulous jewels of its day?

BTW, great pics everyone!
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2005, 09:43:09 AM »
These wonderful photos have surpassed my hopes immeasurably.  Thank you to all who have contributed.  I look forward to gleaning more knowledge as this thread continues to develop.   :)
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2005, 01:54:59 PM »


Found this in the Sotheby's archives of lots sold.  They claim the insignia is that of Napoleon.  Anyone recognize this garnet parure?  Would it have been some type of 'presentation' gift to someone at court, or would it have been the property of the empress?
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2005, 02:05:03 PM »
Gosh, I wish I could tell you emeraldeyes . . . but my knowlege of jewels is rudimentry at best.  Perhaps grandduchessella, my co-moderator, knows the answer?  ???
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2005, 09:17:45 AM »
Teddy thinks he would look stunning in the pearl and diamond tiarra when he goes bowling......