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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2005, 11:09:24 AM »
Well, I am afraid that dear Tedders is going to have to fight me for it because I think it is absolutely stunning......and I have friends in very high places 8) 8)
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2005, 11:17:07 AM »
Well...with all respect...Tedders has friends in very high places as well....



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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2005, 11:38:05 AM »
The Diamond and emerald tiara of the Duchesse d'Angouleme is absolutely gorgeous . . . I dread to wonder how much it must cost . . .  :P
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2005, 01:07:51 PM »
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Well...with all respect...Tedders has friends in very high places as well....



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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2005, 08:18:42 AM »
Here's a pic of Louis XV's crown:



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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2005, 02:40:02 PM »
Gorgeous - love the hand-shake gold thingy . . .
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2005, 02:47:39 PM »
What does it mean though?

Perhaps her agreement with herself to look after number one? :o
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2005, 02:53:02 PM »
And what about the two angels on the side . . .  ::)
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2005, 02:58:56 PM »
Margot and Hercule!
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2005, 03:02:39 PM »
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Margot and Hercule!


;D ;D ;D Somehow I doubt it!
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2005, 12:46:15 AM »
In a letter November 16, 1571, Catherine de Médicis explains to François Dujardin, goldsmith of the queen since 1569, how to set on a pendentive this emerald. The reason for the joined hands is friendship, but angels are a mystery  ???

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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2005, 12:55:56 AM »
Hi Helene!

Do you know which specific friendship was being referred to? Was it a particular friend? Just curious.
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2005, 09:23:02 AM »
Alas no, I don't know :-/

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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2005, 01:48:16 PM »
That's OK I figured it out over lunch!

The hands refer to the protestants and the catholics being friends, which is what Catherine at certain times in her regency was striving for (Edict of Toleration 1563).
I can imagine her wearing this jewel at crisis meetings - it means: I am the mediator, I am the chairperson. Unfortunately because she changed her tack so often, neither side trusted her.

There is probably more symbolism in the jewel. Renaissance items were always packed with references. The idea was that someone would ask about the jewel, and the owner or wearer would be able to hold forth about the complicated allegories etc.!
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Re: French Royal and Imperial Jewels
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2005, 11:01:05 AM »
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Can anyone give me more info on a jewel that Louis XII gave to Mary Rose Tudor when he married - the heart of Tuscany, or the Star of Tuscany or something like that, purported to be one of the most fabulous jewels of its day?


The Mirror of Naples, actually. I believe it was a table-cut diamond, something with pearls around it, and Mary Rose took it with her when she eloped with the Duke of Suffolk. François I forever lamented its loss, and it's been since lost to history. I heard nothing of either of Mary Rose's daughters, Frances or Eleanor, inheriting it, so I get the feeling it might have been sold by Suffolk after Mary Rose's death in 1533. Just my tuppence.

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