Author Topic: Confusion about the Imperial Family's Dogs in Yekaterinburg  (Read 6815 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline AGRBear

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 6611
  • The road to truth is the best one to travel.
    • View Profile
    • Romanov's  Russia
Re: Confusion about the Imperial Family's Dogs in Yekaterinburg
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2005, 11:36:05 AM »
Evidently chicken bones and egg shells were found near the Four Brother's mine.

It is thought that the burial crew had a meal break.

And, there is evidence about the eggs being brought to the Ipatiev House by the nuns.

Don't recall where the chicken came from.

AGRBear
« Last Edit: May 27, 2009, 09:47:28 PM by Alixz »
"What is true by lamplight is not always true by sunlight."

Joubert, Pensees, No. 152

Offline AGRBear

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 6611
  • The road to truth is the best one to travel.
    • View Profile
    • Romanov's  Russia
Re: Confusion about the Imperial Family's Dogs in Yekaterinburg
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2005, 11:40:50 AM »
1934 Yurovsky's testimony:
>>Although I warned them through Botkin that they didn't need to bring anything with them, they nevertheless gathered up various little things -- pillows, little  bags, and so forth--and, I believe, a little dog.<<

Yurovsky mentions the "little dog" in 1934 but not in his 1920's testimony.

Quote
In the next couple of days,  I'm going to type in the testimony of Yurovsky of 1920. Since this copy is found in THE FALL OF THE ROMANOVS, I assume, the words in the brackets are the authors Steinberg's and Khrustalev's:

>>...The comm. [commandant] went to get them personaly, alone, and led them dowsairs to the room below.  Nich was carrying A. [Aleksei] in his arms; the rest carried little pillows and other small things with them....


AGRBear
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by AGRBear »
"What is true by lamplight is not always true by sunlight."

Joubert, Pensees, No. 152

Offline RealAnastasia

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1890
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
Re: Confusion about the Imperial Family's Dogs in Yekaterinburg
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2005, 09:57:30 PM »
So...There were little pillows after all.  ;)

RealAnastasia.

Offline AGRBear

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 6611
  • The road to truth is the best one to travel.
    • View Profile
    • Romanov's  Russia
Re: Confusion about the Imperial Family's Dogs in Yekaterinburg
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2005, 10:56:14 PM »
Yes.

ARBear
"What is true by lamplight is not always true by sunlight."

Joubert, Pensees, No. 152

Offline highlowhall

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 3
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
Re: Confusion about the Imperial Family's Dogs in Yekaterinburg
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2005, 01:49:14 PM »
Hi Rachael,

This was a spaniel called Jimmy, and as far as I remember it didnt belong to either Grand Duchessīs, they looked after it when arriving at Ipatiev House, didnt it belong to Gilliard????

I havent got any reference books with me to check.

Offline RealAnastasia

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1890
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
Re: Confusion about the Imperial Family's Dogs in Yekaterinburg
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2005, 09:59:40 PM »
The only "Jemmy" that history knows is Tatiana's dog, killed along with the Romanovs. The dog that White Army found in Ipatiev House abandoned and alone was Joy, Alexei Spaniel. As far as I know, Gilliard had no dog, and he was not allowed into Ipatiev House, during his days in Ekaterinburg.

RealAnastasia.

Offline LisaDavidson

  • Moderator
  • Velikye Knyaz
  • *****
  • Posts: 2665
    • View Profile
Re: Confusion about the Imperial Family's Dogs in Yekaterinburg
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2005, 03:58:58 PM »
Joy lived out her life in Windsor and is buried there. I believe one of the guards either looked after or took joy after the murders.

Offline RealAnastasia

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1890
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
Re: Confusion about the Imperial Family's Dogs in Yekaterinburg
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2005, 11:12:35 PM »
Quote
Joy lived out her life in Windsor and is buried there. I believe one of the guards either looked after or took joy after the murders.


Yes; Lisa is right, Joy was found wondering alone by the whites, and one of them bring him to England where the dog died, old and almost blind.

RealAnastasia.
« Last Edit: May 27, 2009, 09:48:27 PM by Alixz »