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Reply #15
« on: June 04, 2012, 10:58:02 AM »
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Since Paul Kulikovsky does not yet have a web-site or blog devoted to his "Romanov News" reports, I asked him to allow me to upload the latest one (No. 49) and to post a link to it here — since it contains his excellent article on the current exhibit at GARF.

He was very kind to grant his permission, so here it is:

http://www.saintannas.com/Archived_Docs_HTM/Romanov_News_49.pdf

But I warn you: it will cause you envy — especially if you are not able to attend the exhibit yourself!
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« on: June 04, 2012, 01:59:13 PM »
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Out of this world Inok...thanks for sharing!

I'll be taking some time later to read through all of this since I'll be among the envious who sadly will not be attending the exhibit...
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« on: June 04, 2012, 03:55:37 PM »
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Thank you so much for sharing this! This exhibition....wow! It sounds brilliant, and some of the stuff they ahve there, I would love to see for real. I'll be among the envious too, also sadly not attending this exhibit.
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« on: June 06, 2012, 08:59:03 AM »
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A most interesting exhibition indeed! GARF has posted more information on this exhibtion on its website at http://archives.ru/exhibitions/gibel-nikolay-ii_press.shtml and at http://www.rusarchives.ru/evants/exhibitions/vystavka_gibel-semji-nikolaya-ii-2012_f.shtml , which also shows pictures of some of the exhibits.

In the summer of 2005, there was a similar exhibition at a hall under the Christ the Saviour Cathedral in Moscow, where they showed one of the bayonets used to kill the children. I get the impression that these are shown in this new exhibition, too.
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« on: June 27, 2012, 02:39:36 PM »
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yes, wish i could be there.
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Reply #20
« on: June 27, 2012, 03:40:49 PM »
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A most interesting exhibition indeed! GARF has posted more information on this exhibtion on its website at http://archives.ru/exhibitions/gibel-nikolay-ii_press.shtml and at http://www.rusarchives.ru/evants/exhibitions/vystavka_gibel-semji-nikolaya-ii-2012_f.shtml , which also shows pictures of some of the exhibits.

In the summer of 2005, there was a similar exhibition at a hall under the Christ the Saviour Cathedral in Moscow, where they showed one of the bayonets used to kill the children. I get the impression that these are shown in this new exhibition, too.


       And even earlier:  A significant number of these very same items including the "abdication documents" of the Emperor Nicholas II and the Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich, ceramic fragments of the jars of acid, the bayonet said to be used in the killings, as well as a fragment of the wallpaper (with minor bloodstains) from the death chamber with the famous "Belsatzar" inscription, etc.,  were shown in 1999-2001 in the famous Broughton International exhibition (courtesy of the State Hermitage Museum of Russia) that toured the USA in three or four selected cities.
       I was able to spend an unlimited amount of viewing time on two separate occasions at the Wilmington, Delaware, USA showing site.  A hefty catalogue of the exhibition was available for purchase, and I would think can still be found.      Regards,  AP.
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« on: June 28, 2012, 10:18:31 AM »
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Speaking of catalogues, one in Russian can be purchased for this exhibition too.

http://www.indrik.ru/2012/gibel-semi-imperatora-nikolaya-ii-sledstvie-dlinoyu-v-vek

It's 1,000 Roubles, which is approx. $30.

I have no idea what the postage might be from Russia, but the payment page has links and details.
http://www.indrik.ru/joomshopping/orders/kak-kupit

A friend in Moscow was kind enough to send me a copy. It is 175 pages, with lots of photos and details.
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« on: July 02, 2012, 04:23:26 PM »
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This topic has always intrigued and frustrated me.

I understand the natural and primary role of Whites and monarchists early in the investigation. Gaida and Kolchak  and Dietrichs would have a natural drive to find out what happened and presumably capture and punish any Bolshevik murderers of the Imperial Family.

What I don't understand was the appointment by Kutuzov of either Sergeev or Nametkin. Although almost every Russian -trained jurist or investigative type over the age of 18 would have been a product of Imperial law schools and highly likely to be a committed monarchist as a result. The fact is that Imperial loyalists would have been ousted from legal, judicial, investigative, or even significant police roles shortly after the February revolution, and most definitely after October/November 1917 , after the Bolshevik seisure of power. Committed Bolsheviks had been in control of Ekaterinburg and its Ural region for about eight  months, and other revolutionaries for about fifteen months.

Nametkin and Sergeev , as I understand it, were incumbents in responsible prosecutorial or investigative positions  under the Bolsheviks. They were not Romanov loyalists brought in from outside the area in the wake of White advances. Or am I wrong about this? If I'm right, the political reliability of these two really should have been in question, and expecting them to aggressively pursue Bolshevik murderers of the Emperor and his family , especially the highest level Ural Soviet Bolsheviks, would be, well, absurd, and result in a dead end and no capture or serious pursuit of the killers. In fact,Nametkin and Sergeev were replaced, with little achieved and a lot of time and oppportunity to find dead Romanovs or living Bolshevik assassins or accomplices in the area lost.

What am I missing here, if anything?
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« on: July 17, 2012, 06:56:44 PM »
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Thank you so much, Inok Nikolai, for posting Mr Kulikovsky's article. If I were to distribute the link to interested friends, would there be any objection?
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« on: July 18, 2012, 02:38:41 PM »
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Thank you so much, Inok Nikolai, for posting Mr Kulikovsky's article. If I were to distribute the link to interested friends, would there be any objection?

No, I have no objection.

But you and your friends might want to download the file for the future.

Right now I have "parking rights" on our parish's web-site, but that could change someday, and then the link wouldn't work.
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Reply #25
« on: July 19, 2012, 12:06:53 PM »
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A couple of things:

Paul Kulikovsky publishes his "Romanov News" on a group we have on Facebook. If anyone wants to join this group and needs an introduction, just message me.

I have the impression that Judge Sergeyev was a somewhat impartial investigator. It is possible that some who participated were neither Bolshevik leaning nor Tsarist lackeys.
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« on: July 25, 2012, 03:00:19 PM »
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Since this relates to the Sokolov Investigation papers, I thought that this might be the place to post this notice.


Just recently some friends in Moscow — researchers and authors on the Romanovs — informed us of another interesting exhibition there this summer.

It’s being held at the Glinka Music Museum, and it features the archives of Mstislav Rostropovich which were recently donated to the museum by his widow, Galina Vishnevskaya.

It’s entitled: “Rostropovich and Vishnevskaya — the Crossing of Fates”. The museum says that it is being extended for the summer period because of public interest, but I could find no specific dates.

(Once at the site dedicated to the exhibit, in the upper, right-hand corner of the screen, the language can be switched to English for a brief description.)

http://www.glinka.museum/news/index.php?news=7616

The news reports on the exhibit mention, among the many other things donated, the following Romanov-related items which Rostropovich had bought at Sotheby’s in the 1990s, and which, until now, had been kept in a bank vault in Switzerland:
— four volumes of Nicholas Sokolov’s investigation into the murder of the Imperial family (apparently originals, not copies).
— the partial diary of Tsarevich Alexis Nicholaevich for 1917
— the letters of Empress Alexandra Feodorovna to Catherine Schneider
— a postcard from Grand Duchess Olga Nicholaevna to her aunt, Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna from Tobolsk in 1918

If anyone attends this exhibit, or learns anything more about it, please let us know.
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« on: July 26, 2012, 06:04:16 AM »
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— the partial diary of Tsarevich Alexis Nicholaevich for 1917

Wow! I thought this had been considered lost. (Or was that the 1918 diary?)
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Reply #28
« on: July 26, 2012, 06:59:51 AM »
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Hi. Don´t know if this is the right thread to post this information, but there is a lot of interesting news on Interfax religion today. 1) About the Ortodox Church
opinion on The "Ekaterinburg Remains" to start with. I don´t know how to post links, but  someone else surely does. 2)  and also a new decendant of
Alexei has emerged from obscurity.....)

regards
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Reply #29
« on: July 26, 2012, 07:19:21 AM »
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— the partial diary of Tsarevich Alexis Nicholaevich for 1917

Wow! I thought this had been considered lost. (Or was that the 1918 diary?)

Well, if I understood correctly, it's just a partial diary — some things he jotted down over several days or weeks.

Pr. Eugenie de Grece in “Le Tsarevitch enfant martyr”, mentions that in 1937 part of this "diary" appeared in the Russian-language newspaper Novoye Russkoye Slovo in New York City.

I think excerpts have shown up from time to time in various publications in Russian over the years too.

It will be interesting to see what this turns out to be.
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