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Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« on: August 27, 2005, 05:16:56 PM »
Hello everyone! Tsaria and I are working together on this little Readme File of basic Stuart/Stewart info, so here we go! Let's start with a list of the Stuart/Stewart Kings of Scotland and England:

Kings of Scotland:
# Robert II (1371-1390)
# Robert III (1390-1406)
# James I (1406-1437)
# James II (1437-1460)
# James III (1460-1488)
# James IV (1488-1513)
# James V (1513-1542)
# Mary, Queen of Scots (1542-1567)
# James VI (1567-1625)

And now, the Stuart Kings of England!
# James VI of Scotland and I of England (1603-1625)
# Charles I of England and Scotland (1625-1649)
# Charles II of England and Scotland (1660-1685)
# James II of England and VII of Scotland (1685-1688) (continued to claim the English and Scottish thrones after his deposition in 1688 until his death in 1701)
# Mary II of England and Scotland (1689-1694) - with William III of England and II of Scotland, of the House of Orange-Nassau, a grandson of Charles I
# Anne of England and Scotland (1702-1714)

Despite conceiving 18 times, none of Anne's children survived. Before her death, the succession had been settled on her second cousin Sophia, Electress of Hanover, granddaughter of James I. But since Sophia was already dead, her son George became King George I and founded the Hanoverian dynasty.

How are they related to the Tudors?
Henry VII's daughter Margaret married King James IV - James VI and I was their great-grandson.

Some Trivia
# Every Stewart monarch from James I of Scotland to James VI and I ascended the throne as a minor.
#Mary, Queen of Scots, became the youngest monarch in the history of the British Isles when she became Queen aged 6 days old.
#It was Mary who changed the family name to Stuart when she was in France as the wife of the Dauphin Francois, later Francois I.
#James VI and I was the longest reigning Stuart monarch - 58 years as King of Scotland.
#King Charles II had 15 illegitimate children, the second-most of any English king (Henry I had the record with 21!).

How did they become rulers of Scotland?
Robert II was the grandson of the famous 'Robert the Bruce'. His mother was Marjorie Bruce, and his father was Walter Stewart, who held the office of High Steward of Scotland (from where the family derived its name). He succeeded David II as King of Scotland.

In fact, as stated before, monarchs from James I to James VI ascended the throne as minors, Robert II and Robert III were 55 and 50 respectively when they became king - very much spent forces.

Enjoy!
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2005, 05:26:35 PM »
I think everyone who comes on to this thread will agree with me that Prince Lieven is a remarkable guy.  

I have just read his post... in AWE!!!

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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2005, 05:27:44 PM »
Aww . . . you flatter me tsaria!  :-[ I'm sure your knowlege is much more impressive!  :D
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2005, 10:47:05 AM »

Yes, he certainly IS remarkable!


Another curious thing about the Stuarts: all Stuart kings from James I to Mary I died young and violently!


1. James I: Murdered by his uncle Walter, earl of Atholl.

2. James II: Killed by a bursting piece of ordnance at the seige of Roxburgh Castle.

3. James III: Murdered.

4. James IV: Died in battle (Flodden Field).

5. James V: Died after suffering a nervous collapse.

6. Mary: Beheaded.

Tragic, isn't it?
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2005, 11:45:17 AM »
not a Stuart, but Alexander III also suffered a violent death when his horse plunged over a cliff at Kinghorn.
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2005, 01:02:33 PM »
The Tudors were certainly no friends to the Stuats . . . James IV was killed when the Earl of Surrey (later Duke of Norfolk) commanded an English army to meet the Scots at Flodden. It was an utter disaster for the Scots. A whole generation of earls, knights and nobles were wiped out. And, on top of it all, the King was killed!

Then, Henry VIII's armies destroyed the Scots again at Solway Moss about 30 years later. After the battle, James V was awaiting news of his wife Marie, in labour. When he heard she had been delivered of a girl, he grunted - 'it came with a lass, and twill go with a lass' referring to how the Stewart dynasty had begun with a woman - Marjory Stewart. Well, he was wrong in that Mary did not end the dynasty, but he right - it did go with a lass, when Queen Anne died in 1714.

P.S: thanks umigon! :D
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2005, 05:48:52 AM »
Lieven, since you are the co-moderator of about 3 boards, I'm considering being nice to you. Don't take that as a guarentee, though. Impressive knowledge.


I need to go back to Year 3 and learn how to spell guarentee...... :-[ :-[ :-[

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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2005, 05:53:09 AM »
Hey there Smiths Chips... so is it welcome to the Harem then? ( its extremely exclusive) ;)
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2005, 05:55:23 AM »
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Hey there Smiths Chips... so is it welcome to the Harem then? ( its extremely exclusive) ;)



In time, Kim, in time......

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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2005, 06:09:04 AM »
Although, Kim, IF I join(when i'm about 15/16--2/3 years time) I don't think Lieven will like my rampant(and often) swearing sprees...

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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2005, 06:30:21 AM »
Too true, Smiths chips, I like a sophisticated woman!  ;)
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2005, 06:31:49 AM »
Thats me then innit dude ;D
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2005, 06:36:34 AM »
Too right, you legend.  ;D

Getting back to the topic at hand <ahem, tsaria will kill me>, an interesting note to make is that Anne Hyde was the last commoner to marry a British heir to the throne until Lady Diana Spencer married the Prince of Wales in 1981.

Also, Catherine of Braganza, wife of Charles II, is the only Portuguese princess ever to marry into the British royal family, and Mary Beatrice of Modena, James II's wfe, was the first Italian princess to do so since Violante Visconti had married a son of Edward III in the 1300s.
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2005, 07:05:54 PM »
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Too right, you legend.  ;D

Getting back to the topic at hand <ahem, tsaria will kill me>, an interesting note to make is that Anne Hyde was the last commoner to marry a British heir to the throne until Lady Diana Spencer married the Prince of Wales in 1981.

Also, Catherine of Braganza, wife of Charles II, is the only Portuguese princess ever to marry into the British royal family, and Mary Beatrice of Modena, James II's wfe, was the first Italian princess to do so since Violante Visconti had married a son of Edward III in the 1300s.



It is suprising that Catalina of Braganza was the only Portugese princess to marry into the English royal family-Portugal was said to have been England/Great Briatin's oldest and steadiest ally(ever since the Crusades!!)


SEE?? I CAN be sophisticated!! ;D ;D
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Re: Stuart/Stewart Readme File
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2005, 06:18:55 AM »
Very true, Smiths-Chips. Well, John of Gaunt's daughter Philippa of Lancaster married King Jao of Portugal, so that's another alliance . . . can't think of any more . . .
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