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Re: Grand Duchess Marie Alexandrovna, Duchess of Edinburgh and Coburg
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2005, 11:56:16 AM »
Tja,I thought it would reveal some interesting facts about her life...

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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2005, 12:26:44 PM »
Photo of Alfred and Marie...

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Re: Grand Duchess Marie Alexandrovna, Duchess of Edinburgh and Coburg
« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2005, 12:28:07 PM »
"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2005, 03:14:01 AM »
Beautiful pictures Marc and Prince Lieven.

About Marie´s  relationship with her russian family, was she in good terms with the IF?, specially with Nicholas and Alix? I don´t remember to have seen any pick, of her with members of IF after her marriage, ......was she agree with the hypothetic marriage of Olga Nicholaevna and her grand son Carol of Roumania?

Where was she during the revolution??. i supose that after the refusal of George to give refuge to IF, her feelings towards England get worse.


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Re: Grand Duchess Marie Alexandrovna, Duchess of Edinburgh and Coburg
« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2005, 07:38:44 AM »
I don't think she hd a good relationship with N&A. She wasn't especially close to her Hessian relatives and after the divorce of Ernie & Ducky and the subsequent punishment of Ducky when she married Cyril things probably got much worse. There are some pictures of them though on another thread.

She was still close to her own Romanov relatives though. She visited Russia and was one of the few Romanovs to brave the terrorist threat and attend her brother Serge's funeral in 1905.

She was in Germany during the Revolution but she seems to have become more German and was angry at Russia for being on the 'wrong' side of the war. She died in 1920 and I don't know about her feelings towards England after the war and revolution. She appears more with German relatives after 1900 and I don't know how much she even visited England after the death of Alfred and QV.
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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2005, 09:26:00 AM »
Dear Grandduchessella, was not Nicky as her nephew, her own Romanov relative?

Who where her german relatives?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Grand Duchess Marie Alexandrovna, Duchess of Edinburgh and Coburg
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2005, 10:25:55 AM »
She had plenty of German in-laws and such - her daughter Alexandra married a German, and she was related to the Hesse brood by marriage (Affie was related to the Hesses through his sister Alice) and by blood (her mother was a Hessian princess).
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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2005, 10:59:47 AM »
So, she was close to her Hessian relatives?

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Re: Grand Duchess Marie Alexandrovna, Duchess of Edinburgh and Coburg
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2005, 11:02:24 AM »
Ooh, I couldn't answer for certain - perhaps grandduchessella knows?
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« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2005, 11:09:17 AM »
Just as a side line to this topic - my Great Grandfather was house steward to the Duke and Duchess and visitor Russia with the duke when he married the Grand Duchess.

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« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2005, 11:20:32 AM »
Oooh, how very interesting, Great Dude! Did he leave diaries or memoirs?
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« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2005, 11:27:34 AM »
Really? i can´t belive itĦĦ, can you tell me more about them ?

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Re: Grand Duchess Marie Alexandrovna, Duchess of Edinburgh and Coburg
« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2005, 04:59:12 PM »
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Dear Grandduchessella, was not Nicky as her nephew, her own Romanov relative?

Who where her german relatives?

Thanks in advance.


Sorry--I meant her own immediate family--parents and siblings as opposed to cousins and nieces/nephews.

By German relatives, she spent a good amount of time with the Kaiser and his court and also with her husband's successor as Duke of Coburg, Charles Edward, and his family as well as her daughter Sandra and her husband & children.
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Re: Grand Duchess Marie Alexandrovna, Duchess of Edinburgh and Coburg
« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2005, 05:02:12 PM »
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So, she was close to her Hessian relatives?


I get the impression she wasn't. Perhaps as a child when her mother (a Hessian princess) was alive but not so much when she was grown. Alfred was close to his sister Alice but Alice died not that many years after Affie & Marie married. There were some photos with Ernie taken before the marriage to Ducky but apart from large gatherings there doesn't seem to be much interaction. She may have been fond of Prince Louis of Battenberg since he served a good number of years with Affie on his ship.
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