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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2005, 06:15:57 AM »
If Elizabeth and Charles had succumbed to Typhoid in 1612 along with their brother Henry, then the crowns could have separated again.

The heir to England was Arabella Stuart. After her death it would be the descendants of Catherine Grey (i.e. Edward and William Seymour).

The heir to Scotland was the Earl of Arran (one of the Hamiltons anyway). They were the senior line of descendants from James II's daughter Mary. (Hope I've got this right!)

Another interesting possibility would be that Elizabeth and Frederick managed to hang on in Bohemia but converted to catholicism ( la Henri IV). In 1700 they would have no protestant descendants. Thus the Act of Succession would have to look to the descendants of Catherine Grey in England and the Hamiltons in Scotland. The Act of Union in 1707 would never have happened!
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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2005, 07:14:42 AM »
Yes, or what if the Gunpoweder Plot had succeeded, and the rebels made Elizabeth Queen Elizabeth II, but Charles' supporters had him crowned King of Scots - separate again!!
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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2005, 09:25:22 AM »
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Hope you didn't object to all the Norwegian jokes by the way, am I right in thinking that you are danish?



Thanks for the info. :)
Yes I'm danish, and no, not at all. You can make all the jokes you want about norwegian people. ;D ;)

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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2005, 11:49:47 AM »
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Thanks for the info. :)
Yes I'm danish, and no, not at all. You can make all the jokes you want about norwegian people. ;D ;)


You're welcome. Do feel free to contribute about the Scandinavian connection in the Stuart section. We've done Anne of Denmark on the Scottish consorts thread, and Margaret of Denmark (1456-86) is coming up shortly!
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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2005, 01:01:02 PM »
And you can insult British cuisine as much as you like ;D
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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2005, 04:44:22 PM »
though not Scottish cuisine!

I recently gave a friend here in Germany (!) a recipe for cockieleekie soup, which, he assured me, went down very well!
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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2005, 11:13:37 AM »
 
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You're welcome. Do feel free to contribute about the Scandinavian connection in the Stuart section. We've done Anne of Denmark on the Scottish consorts thread, and Margaret of Denmark (1456-86) is coming up shortly!

I'm afraid I don't know anything about these women ( :-[), exept that Denmark had to give Scotland the Orkney and Shetland Islands when (I think) Margrete was married, and the country was in lack of money.

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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2005, 12:59:15 PM »
Yes, Scotland was allowed to take over Shetland and Orkney until Margaret's dowry was paid. It never was, so Scotland just kept the islands. All of the Hebrides (and I think the Isle of Man) were Norwegian until 1266!
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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2005, 06:14:46 PM »
those islands were the dowry of anne of denmark, james 1st's (of england 6th of scotland) wife... or so i thought... :-/

edited to add: anne of denmark that is
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Re: The Maid of Norway
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2005, 12:38:07 AM »
Hi Ilyala!

No it was definitely Margaret of Denmark's dowry - She married James III in 1468 or 1469. We drifted off topic I'm afraid and started talking about another Margaret!
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