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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #240 on: March 02, 2012, 02:41:37 PM »
I'd never think  that there were much photos of Erzsi's engagement, here's other a bit different.
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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #241 on: March 06, 2012, 01:34:55 PM »
Another engagement portrait

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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #242 on: March 23, 2012, 02:05:30 PM »
One of her sons:

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/auersperg21/Windisch-Graetz.jpg

Assuming this is really Franz Josef does someone have a picture of his wife Ghislaine d'Arschot Schoonhoven  ?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #243 on: July 09, 2012, 09:26:27 AM »
Is there still no Photo of Ghislaine Windisch-Graetz?


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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #244 on: August 11, 2012, 02:41:51 PM »
Why isn't there any information out about Prince Otto. Never hear anything about him. Only about the Princess. Why?   ...and who was the girl that he was originally betrothed to?

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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #245 on: August 13, 2012, 10:38:18 AM »
Why isn't there any information out about Prince Otto. Never hear anything about him. Only about the Princess. Why?   ...and who was the girl that he was originally betrothed to?

This question was merged with the Archduchess Elisabeth, "Erszi" which is typical of what most people would do. Prince Otto of Windisch-Graetz I'm sure got tired of being down played like this in real life after all being forced to marry her. Why the Emperor would force Prince Otto to marry her and then turn to Elisabeth and tell her she would never rise to her true position. Look at the Queen of England and her side kick. She still got to be Queen with Prince Philip beside her.

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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #246 on: August 14, 2012, 08:46:09 AM »
Why isn't there any information out about Prince Otto. Never hear anything about him. Only about the Princess. Why?   ...and who was the girl that he was originally betrothed to?


Elisabeth and Otto met each other at a Court Ball...The rule was that a girl who belonged to an Imperial family had to ask first a man to dance and that such an invitation must be extended only once.But Archduchess Elisabeth smashed that rule by asking the Prince to dance with her 3 times...

The Prince was already betrothed to a Countess(one of the Schoenborn Countesses if I remember correctly),who was also present at the ball...When she saw what was happening she went home angry,but that did not disturb the young Archduchess who soon arranged to be married to a man she fell in love with...

That's the only thing I know about the girl who was betrothed to Otto...If anyone knows her identity for sure,please help ;) 

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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #247 on: August 14, 2012, 09:49:17 PM »
Why isn't there any information out about Prince Otto. Never hear anything about him. Only about the Princess. Why?   ...and who was the girl that he was originally betrothed to?


Elisabeth and Otto met each other at a Court Ball...The rule was that a girl who belonged to an Imperial family had to ask first a man to dance and that such an invitation must be extended only once.But Archduchess Elisabeth smashed that rule by asking the Prince to dance with her 3 times...

The Prince was already betrothed to a Countess(one of the Schoenborn Countesses if I remember correctly),who was also present at the ball...When she saw what was happening she went home angry,but that did not disturb the young Archduchess who soon arranged to be married to a man she fell in love with...

That's the only thing I know about the girl who was betrothed to Otto...If anyone knows her identity for sure,please help ;) 
How did you come by this information? Please, Thank you.

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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #248 on: August 14, 2012, 11:51:50 PM »
Why isn't there any information out about Prince Otto. Never hear anything about him. Only about the Princess. Why?   ...and who was the girl that he was originally betrothed to?


Elisabeth and Otto met each other at a Court Ball...The rule was that a girl who belonged to an Imperial family had to ask first a man to dance and that such an invitation must be extended only once.But Archduchess Elisabeth smashed that rule by asking the Prince to dance with her 3 times...

The Prince was already betrothed to a Countess(one of the Schoenborn Countesses if I remember correctly),who was also present at the ball...When she saw what was happening she went home angry,but that did not disturb the young Archduchess who soon arranged to be married to a man she fell in love with...

That's the only thing I know about the girl who was betrothed to Otto...If anyone knows her identity for sure,please help ;) 
How did you come by this information? Please, Thank you.

As there is lack of information I tried to google and found this article where it was mentioned:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19220122&id=7cYaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=uEkEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3313,2487709

Unfortunately they didn't mention the name of the Countess,but I think someone here said that it was a Countess von Schoenborn...if someone knows better please post :)

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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #249 on: September 05, 2012, 12:46:33 PM »
Ridding with mama


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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #250 on: November 14, 2012, 03:15:03 PM »
Erzsi's childhood, late 1880's, the woman walking behind the little carriage seems to be Stephanie, I wonder if the woman wearing a black dress -at the side of the carriage- is her grandma Sissi. The others must be servants and nannies.
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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #251 on: December 15, 2012, 07:31:58 AM »
Erzi in 1913 :

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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #252 on: January 05, 2013, 08:59:14 AM »
Hi

I am new and it as my first message in this forum. I am interested in nobility of Habsburg monarchy.

This is the photo of Erzy on socialist perty meeting:


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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #253 on: January 05, 2013, 09:09:31 AM »
her youngest son Rudolf shortly before he had an motorcyle accident:


Rudolf`s funeral, his Nazi friends:


Erzhy is on the bottom right corner (black hat with veil), beside her (bald head ) is  Leo Petznek



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Re: Archduchess Elisabeth 'Erzi', Otto Windisch-Graetz and their family
« Reply #254 on: January 19, 2013, 07:50:55 AM »
Erzi and her sons :

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