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Re: Recommended reading/Valid sources/Advice for beginners on Romanov books
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2004, 03:18:08 PM »
Carolly Erickson's "study" on Alexandra is one of the worst biographies, not only on the Romanovs, but in general, that I've ever come across. So badly researched and written in an atrocious style. I thought I was reading a tabloid newspaper. This was my first book by Ms. Erickson, and it was definitely also the last.

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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2004, 04:02:19 PM »
I totally agree with Silja's assessment of Erickson's biography of Alexandra.  Spot on.

Another book I recently read again was "A Fatal Passion" about Victoria Melita (Grand Duke Kirill's wife). Has anyone else read this one?  I decided to give it another whirl a couple weeks ago after skimming it several years ago.  While the author (whose name has slipped my mind at the moment) clearly was enthusiastic about his subject, I was discomfited by what I can only decribe as a "sycophantic" tone to the book. Just not to my taste, I guess.

As parting note, I would just like to say how great it is to see so many folks with the same interests here.  I remember when this site was first launched around '97/'98--kudos to Bob A. and all the folks at Pallasweb for one of the most enjoyable and informative sites on the internet.

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« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2004, 04:23:26 PM »
I also read the book by Carolly Erickson. It looked like she gathered all sorts of facts from other books and squeezed it in one of here own. The only nice thing was the cover, a photograph of Alexandra, looking over the rail on the Standard.
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Re: Recommended reading/Valid sources/Advice for beginners on Romanov books
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2004, 02:32:34 PM »
Here are some book reviews, etc.

Review of Lost Splendor
http://www.exile.ru/183/183151802.html

Book review of the Kitchen Boy
http://www.startribune.com/stories/384/3730717.html

Book review The Secret Plot to Save the Tsar
http://www.curledup.com/savetsar.htm

Book review the Fall of the Romanovs
http://www.yale.edu/yup/books/065574.htm

Review of Nicholas & Alexandra – The last imperial family of Tsarist Russia
http://rebeccasreads.com/reviews/01artpho/01herm89.html

Reviews Flight of the Romanovs
http://www.history-asia.com/The_Flight_of_the_Romanovs_A_Family_Saga_0465024637.html

Review Royal Russia:  The Albums of the Russian Imperial Family by Lovell
http://www.history-us.com/Royal_Russia__The_Private_Albums_Of_The_Russian_Imperial_Family_0312179367.html

Reviews of the Last Grand Duchess by Grand Duchess Olga
http://www.history-europe.com/The_Last_Grand_Duchess_Her_Imperial_Highness_Grand_Duchess__Olga_Alexandrovna_1_June_188224__November_1960_1552633020.html

Reviews the Lost World by Nicholas and Alexandra by Peter Kurth
http://www.world-literature.com/Tsar_The_Lost_World_of_Nicholas_and_Alexandra_0316557889.html

Review of Romanov Autumn by Charlotte Zeepvat
http://www.bookfinder.us/review5/0750927399.html

Review Little Mother of Russia:  A Biography of Empress Maria Feodorovna
http://www.art-photo-web.com/Little_Mother_of_Russia_A_Biography_of_Empress_Marie_Fedorovna_18471928_0841914214.html

Review of Lost Splendor
http://www.psych-books.com/Lost_Splendor_The_Amazing_Memoirs_of_the_Man_Who_Killed_Rasputin_1885586582.html

Review of Once a Grand Duchess:  Xenia, Sister of Nicholas II
http://www.romancereading.com/Once_a_Grand_Duchess_Xenia_Sister_of_Nicholas_II_0750927496.html

The Last Tsar – by Edvard Radzinsky
http://www.science9.com/The_Last_Tsar__The_Life_and_Death_of_Nicholas_II_0385469624.html

Alice Princess Andrew of Greece by Hugo Vickors (she was Empress Alexandra’s niece – her sister Victoria’s daughter)
http://www.sciencebooknet.com/Alice__Princess_Andrew_of_Greece_0312288867.html

Nicholas and Alexandra by Robert K. Massie
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345438310/ref=pd_sim_art_elt/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance

The Shadow of the Winter Palace:  Russia’s drift toward revolution by Edward Crankshaw
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0306809400/inktomi-bkasin-20/ref%3Dnosim/103-0853631-2033416

Review of Michael and Natasha
http://www.whiterose.org/pam/archives/001595.html

Review of Michael and Natasha
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0FQP/n4356_v126/20534558/p1/article.jhtml

Review of Michael and Natasha by Rosemary Crawford
http://www.worldhistoryhub.com/Michael_and_Natasha__The_Life_And_Love_Of_Michael_Ii_The_Last_Of_The_Romanov_Tsars_0380731916.html

Review of Elizabeth:  Grand Duchess of Russia by Hugo Mayer
http://www.worldhistoryhub.com/Elizabeth_Grand_Duchess_of_Russia_0786706783.html

Reviews of Alexandra, the Last Tsarina by Carolly Erickson
http://www.worldhistoryhub.com/Alexandra_The_Last_Tsarina_031230238X.html

Book review White Crow:  The Life and Times of Grand Duke Nicholas Mikhailovich Romanov:  1859-1919
http://www.fetchbook.co.uk/search_0275977781/tab_reviews.html

Book review White Crow:  The Life and Times of Grand Duke Nicholas Mikhailovich Romanov:  1859-1919
http://www.entertainment-reviews.com/White_Crow__The_Life_and_Times_of_the_Grand_Duke_Nicholas_Mikhailovich_Romanov_18591919_0275977781.html

Nikola and Milena:  King and Queen of the Black Mountain: The Rise and Fall of Montenegro's Royal Family by Marco Houston
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0952164442/ref=pd_sxp_elt_l1/103-0853631-2033416

Recommend Reading by Royalty Magazine
http://www.royalty-magazine.com/bookclub/books.html

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Re: Recommended reading/Valid sources/Advice for beginners on Romanov books
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2004, 03:03:10 PM »
The Camera and the Tsars by Charlotte Zeepvat
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0750930497/qid=1076704423//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i4_xgl14/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Queen Victoria:  A Personal History by Christopher Hibbert
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0306810859/qid=1076704509/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Catherine the Great by Henri Troyat
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452011205/qid=1076704712/sr=1-13/ref=sr_1_13/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Great Catherine by Carolly Erickson
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312135033/ref=pd_sim_books_4/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

The Lost Fortune of the Tsars By William Clarke
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312146728/qid=1076704844/sr=1-18/ref=sr_1_18/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Tiara by Diana Scarisbrick
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0811827178/qid=1076704916/sr=1-22/ref=sr_1_22/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

The Man who Killed Rasputin:  Prince Felix Yusupov by Greg King
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0806519711/qid=1076705030/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

The Man who Killed Rasputin:  Prince Felix Yusupov by Greg King
http://20th-century-history-books.com/1559722959.html

The Last Empress:  The Life and Times of Alexandra Feodorova, the Last Empress of Russia by Greg King
http://20th-century-history-books.com/0735101043.html

The Last Diary of Tsarina Alexandra
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0300072120/p11-20/ref%3Dnosim/103-0853631-2033416

European History Bookstore
http://www.eurohistory.com/bookstore.htm

The Romanovs 1818-1859:  Alexander II of Russia and His Family
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0750922753/qid=1076705451//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i9_xgl14/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Fatal Passion:  The Story of the Uncrowned Last Empress of Russia by Michael John Sullivan
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679424008/ref=pd_sim_books_2/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Princess Victoria Melita by John Van Der Kiste
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0750934697/qid=1076705607/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

The Rasputin File by Edward Radzinsky
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385489102/qid=1076705607/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Rasputin by Brian Moynahan
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0306809303/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books&st=*

Terrible Tsarinas:  Five Russian Women in Power
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1892941546/ref=pd_sbs_b_3/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Peter the Great by Robert Massie
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345298063/ref=pd_sim_books_1/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

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Re: Recommended reading/Valid sources/Advice for beginners on Romanov books
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2004, 03:56:47 PM »
Royalty Digest New Book List
http://www.picrare.com/Royalty_Digest/RDBookForSale/RDNewbooks1.htm

Royalty Digest Used Book List
http://www.picrare.com/Royalty_Digest/RDBookForSale/RDSecondhand.html

Royalty Digest Reprints
http://www.picrare.com/Royalty_Digest/RDBookForSale/RDReprints.htm

Gilbert’s Royal Book Site (His Tours are Great !!)
http://(Read the bit about Grand Duchess Olga’s Other Memoirs)
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ImperialRussian/new.html


Books from Maison Russe
http://www.therussianshop.com/russhop/books/imperialbks.htm

The Romanovs:  Love, Power and Tragedy
http://www.dailypast.com/cgi-bin/amazon_products_feed.cgi?item_id=095216440X&search_type=AsinSearch&locale=us

The Romanovs:  Love, Power and Tragedy
http://leppi.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=29

The Romanovs:  Love, Power and Tragedy
http://neturn.sinacity.com/item/1_095216440X_1_2_5032_index.html

Anastasia’s Album by Hugh Brewster
http://www.historyofmilitary.com/Anastasias_Album_The_Last_Tsars_Youngest_Daughter_Tells_Her_Own_Story_0786802928.html

Books, etc.
http://www.shamema.com/czar.htm

Book on Alexander III (unfortunately not in English – though it is interesting to read the description)
http://russia.vacationbookreview.com/russia_43.html

Nicholas II:  The Twilight of Power by Dominic Lieven
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=1-0312143796-7

A Lifelong Passion by Sergei Mironenko and Andrei Maylunas
http://www.historybookshop.com/book-template.asp?isbn=0753800446

A Lifelong Passion by Sergei Mironenko and Andrei Maylunas
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0753800446/qid=1076708530//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl14/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

St. Petersburg:  The Hidden Interiors
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0865652090/qid=1076708566/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

St. Petersburg:  Architecture of the Tsars
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0789202174/ref=pd_sim_books_1/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Spirit to Survive:  The memoirs of Princess Galitzine
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0718303946/qid=1076708566/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Imperial Splendour by George Galitzine
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0670835587/qid=1076708566/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

The Romanov Legacy:  The Palaces of St. Petersburg by Zoia Belyakova
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/187437127X/qid=1076708801/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna and Her Place in St. Petersburg by Zoia Belyakova
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1874371547/qid=1076708801/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

The Romanovs:  The Way It Was by Zoia Belyakova
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/5827600342/qid=1076708801/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/103-0853631-2033416?v=glance&s=books

Suggested Reading List of Russia
http://www.rctours.com/books.html

Where I like to buy my books from used bookdealers ;)
http://abe.com



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Re: Recommended reading/Valid sources/Advice for beginners on Romanov books
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2004, 04:59:27 PM »
To Greg King,

Sometime ago I found in an old bookstore, a book "How we tried to save the Tsarina" by Sergey Wladimirowitsj Markow. It was published in 1928 (not sure). The book was translated from German into an kind of old fashioned Dutch (a bit laughable).

Sergey is telling his story to the publisher, on a train. He is working as a conductor at the International Wagon-Lits. But before the revolution he was an lieutenant in a Crimea- regiment of the Tsarina.

The translator thought this book rather exaggerated in his epiloque. So I thought it was all fake.

Whilst reading your book "the Fate of the Romanovs"I stumbled across the very same person. Also the name Markow II, is this because to seperate the two Markow's? Is it really true, he wanted to free the Romanovs out of Tsarkoje Selo with poisoned arrows ?

I haven't finished your'e book yet, but it's breathtaking.

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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2004, 06:06:24 PM »
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To Greg King,

Sometime ago I found in an old bookstore, a book "How we tried to save the Tsarina" by Sergey Wladimirowitsj Markow. It was published in 1928 (not sure). The book was translated from German into an kind of old fashioned Dutch (a bit laughable).

Sergey is telling his story to the publisher, on a train. He is working as a conductor at the International Wagon-Lits. But before the revolution he was an lieutenant in a Crimea- regiment of the Tsarina.

The translator thought this book rather exaggerated in his epiloque. So I thought it was all fake.

Whilst reading your book "the Fate of the Romanovs"I stumbled across the very same person. Also the name Markow II, is this because to seperate the two Markow's? Is it really true, he wanted to free the Romanovs out of Tsarkoje Selo with poisoned arrows ?

I haven't finished your'e book yet, but it's breathtaking.

Kind regards,

Anna



Hi Anna:

Serge Markov did indeed exist-there wasn't anything fake about is memoirs.  He was Cornet in one of Her Majesty's regiments, and tried several times to rescue them.   Markov II is a different person from Serge Markov hence the disntinction in numbering.  Serge Markov was involved first with plans surrounding a rescue in spring/summer 1917 at Tsarskoye Selo, then again later in Tobolsk, where he worked with Rasputin's son-in-law Boris Soloviev (who definitely has got the worst of it, being blamed for swindling the Imperial Family when actually he did nothing of the kind).  Markov later ended up working for Alix's brother Ernie.

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« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2004, 09:46:55 PM »
Greg, it would be great to see a second volume, of the things you & Penny had to edit out. Fantastic research.
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« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2004, 09:58:56 PM »
I have been trying to locate a book called FINAL PHOTO of the ROMANOVS [or something like that] I think privately published on the West Coast [USA] in 1998. I know it is a piece of trash, I just want it for the shelf that holds all the fiction/claimants books.
BTW, I liked KITCHEN BOY, indeed a piece of fluff, enjoyable little mystery with an interesting twist at the end. The author was not trying for a Pulitzer, for heaven's sake,  and is definitely NOT trying to pass it off as anything but what it is, fiction about the Romanovs. A lot worse has been published claiming to be "the truth"
Also, would like a reccomendation on anything relatively recent on Alexander III.
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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2004, 07:05:23 AM »
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I have been trying to locate a book called FINAL PHOTO of the ROMANOVS [or something like that] I think privately published on the West Coast [USA] in 1998. I know it is a piece of trash, I just want it for the shelf that holds all the fiction/claimants books.
BTW, I liked KITCHEN BOY, indeed a piece of fluff, enjoyable little mystery with an interesting twist at the end. The author was not trying for a Pulitzer, for heaven's sake,  and is definitely NOT trying to pass it off as anything but what it is, fiction about the Romanovs. A lot worse has been published claiming to be "the truth"
Also, would like a reccomendation on anything relatively recent on Alexander III.


Hi Bobby:

The book is "The Final Photo of the Romanovs: This Same Night God Left Russia," by Carole J. Ramer, published in a larger format trade paperback by the author (the credited publisher is Aarenssen in San Diego.  It was published in 1998, and it has an ASIN number rather than ISBN of 0970059809.  I was in contact with the author for a few months after I learned of the book, and got my copy directly from her, so I might suggest doing a search on her in that area to perhaps find an email.  I won't go into particulars of the book itself-reviewed it in "Atlantis" back in 2000-other than to say that it's pretty dreadful, though it does have one saving grace-a lot of letters and photographs reproduced that came into the author's collection, that were written or at one time belonged to Grand Duchess Kira Kirillovich of Russia-lots of letters from Kirill, pictures of Ducky, etc., that haven't been published elsewhere.  So it's worth trying to find if you're interested in their lives.

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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2004, 07:12:28 AM »
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Greg, it would be great to see a second volume, of the things you & Penny had to edit out. Fantastic research.


We have a special issue of "Atlantis" which we devoted to some of the material cut-but this was largely that related to the Ekaterinburg period.  When we started on the book, we intended to begin with the exile to Tobolsk, and so for a couple of years worked from that perspective-and as a result we have literally hundreds of pages of material dealing with their time there that we can't do anything with-no publisher would, unfortunately, be interested in a book just on their captivity in Tobolsk.  It's a shame since we translated Alix's full diary for 1917, have unpublished letters from Prince Dolgoruky, etc.  But the interest just isn't there for that time period, I guess!

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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2004, 07:28:33 AM »
What does publishers want from a Romanov –book? Rasputin, sex and the murder...
So there will never be book about OTMA because their lives were boring to anyone else except Romanov addicts.