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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2005, 02:02:05 PM »
The second floor

The Children`s Part

1.   The Passageway
2.   The Buffet
3.   The Aleksandra`s Wardrobe
4.   The hallway with the jut of the elevator (The Glass Roofed Upper Corridor)
5.   The Entry
6.   The Dining Room
7.   The Drawing Room (The Girl`s Reception Room)
8.   The Elder Girls` Classroom
9.   The Bathroom
10. The Elder Girls` Bedroom
11. The Junior Girls` Bedroom
12. The Aleksey`s Playroom
13. The Aleksey`s Bedroom
14. The Derevenko`s Room
15. The Aleksey`s Classroom
16. The Aleksey`s Bathroom
17. The Music Room (the Cinema Room or the Teacher`s Common Room)
18. The Aleksey`s Hallway
18a. The Hallway behind the Cinema Room
19. The Aleksey`s Reception Room
20. The Aleksey`s Buffet
21. The Servants` Bathroom
22. The Gilliard `s Bathroom
23. The Gilliard `s Study
24. The Gilliard `s Bedroom
25. The room of the doctors on duty
26. The Sailor Nagorny`s Room
27. The room of the Gilliard`s servant
28. The Hallway (The Passage)
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2005, 08:31:05 PM »
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2005, 08:54:16 PM »
Here's a little mystery...
The key Vladimir V posted varies a bit from this plan that was posted at one time on the AP Time Machine site.


The girls' bedrooms, for instance, are at opposite ends of the corridor from one plan to the next. Does anyone know which is correct?
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2005, 09:23:19 PM »
The key is for the Entrosol Roomj, the rooms in between the ground and First floor. The girls rooms they are talking about must be Nicholas's Sisters since they are in the opposite wing where A III and MF lived

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2005, 09:26:41 PM »
Sorry My mistake I was looking at the wrong one  :-[

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #65 on: October 17, 2005, 02:20:20 PM »
Sorry, that I don`t answer. I want to translate the names of the second floor rooms first. Then I post the list of the names the basement rooms in Russian and you also can practise in translation.

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #66 on: October 17, 2005, 02:24:05 PM »
The second floor

29. The Chambermaids` Bathroom
30. Chambermaid Elizabeth Ersberg
31. Chambermaid Anna Utkina
32. Major Chambermaid Aleksandra Tegleva
33. Zanotti`s Chambermaid Elizabeth Eltso (Eltser)
34. Aleksandra`s Lady in Waiting (on Duty)
35. Maid Madeline Zanotti
36. Maid Maria Tutleberg
37. The Junior Girls` Classroom

The Part of the Retinue

38. The First Servant`s Room
39. The Second Servant`s Room
40. The Hallway
41. The Drawing Room
42. The Bedroom
43. The Bathroom
44. The Reserved Room (The room of the Shneider`s dressmaker)
45. The Servant`s Room
46. The Servant`s Room
47. The Buffet
48. The Hallway (The Passage)
48a. The Light Hallway
49. The Study
50. The Boudoir
51. The Bedroom
52. The Corner Drawing Room
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #67 on: October 17, 2005, 03:10:25 PM »
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The key Vladimir V posted varies a bit from this plan that was posted at one time on the AP Time Machine


 Vlad's is technically correct considering that the AP TM version has forgotten to include the grand duchesses' dining room and the crimson room. It simply says the "drawing room." The order is also COMPLETELY off. It should be GD Dining Room, Crimson Room, GD Classroom, GD bathroom, Olga/Tatiana's Room, Marie/Anastasia's room, Playroom.

As for the GDs' bedrooms being on opposite sides, they're on the same side, but the plans are presented differently.  Vlad's is presented vertically, the other horizontally.
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #68 on: October 17, 2005, 07:29:45 PM »
The plan as set out by Vladimir is correct. :)

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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #69 on: October 17, 2005, 10:11:04 PM »
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The order is also COMPLETELY off. It should be GD Dining Room, Crimson Room, GD Classroom, GD bathroom, Olga/Tatiana's Room, Marie/Anastasia's room, Playroom.


That's what I was referring to. In Vlad's plan, the girls' rooms are shown at the end of the wing closest to the playroom. The APTM places them at the opposite end of the wing (though still on the same side of the corridor).

Thanks for the clarification.

It would seem, then, that the younger girls' room was larger than Olga & Tatiana's. Interesting.
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2005, 10:13:26 PM »
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Here's a little mystery...
The key Vladimir V posted varies a bit from this plan that was posted at one time on the AP Time Machine site.


The girls' bedrooms, for instance, are at opposite ends of the corridor from one plan to the next. Does anyone know which is correct?




that plan is from one of my posts.   i had gotten the plan (unlabeled) from a long-since deleted page from the AP site.    unfortunately, i can't recall where i got my info from (re: the room function), but i probably tried using the present (at that time) AP description, or even some other source.      either way, i was later proved wrong, or at least misinformed, in that same thread.

i think it's safe to assume that vladimir's is the accurate one.....  i am known for many things, but correct image labeling is not always one of them!  ;D
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #71 on: October 17, 2005, 11:07:27 PM »
From the key Vladimir V posted...


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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2005, 08:40:19 AM »
Thank you, Reco!

I must admit to having a little trouble deciphering the hand-lettered numerals on the original plan (when I zoom in, they just get fuzzy), so your re-labeling is very helpful!

And thanks, brnbg, for helping clear up my mystery.
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #73 on: October 18, 2005, 11:58:58 AM »
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Re: Floorplans of the Alexander Palace
« Reply #74 on: October 18, 2005, 12:28:17 PM »
The second floor

53. The Wardrode and the Ironing Room
54. The Reserved Room for the servants of the guests
55. The Reserved Room for the guests
56. The Hallway
57. The Passage
58. The Benkendorf`s Room
59. The Benkendorf`s Bedroom
60. The Benkendorf`s Drawing Room
61. The Buksgevden`s Drawing Room
62. The Buksgevden`s Bedroom
63. The room of the Buksgevden`s servant
64. The Wardrobe
65. The Orbeliani`s Drawing Room
66. The Orbeliani`s Room
67. The Orbeliani`s Room
68. The Obolenskaya`s Room
69. The Obolenskaya`s Bedroom
70. The Obolenskaya`s Drawing Room
71. The Reserved Room for the guests
72. The Buffet
73. The Buffet
74. The Buffet
75. The Buffet
76. The Servant`s Room (on duty)
77. The Servant`s Room (on duty)
78. The Servant`s Room (on duty)
79. The Glass Roofed Corridor
80. The Passage


#38-43 The Catherine Scneider`s apartment
#49-52 The rooms of Alexander III`s children (The rooms of young Nicholas)
#61-70 The rooms of the lady-in-waiting
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