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King Louis Philippe and his family
« on: October 09, 2005, 01:30:13 PM »
I would like to start a thread about King Louis Philippes children, and their spouses. I'm especially interested in the Duke(?) and Duchess Joinville. Thanks for any info. :)
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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2005, 03:29:15 PM »
Well, I think a list is in order!

Louis Philippe and his wife Marie-Amelie of Sicily had the following children:

* Ferdinand Philippe (1810-1842), Crown Prince of France, Duc de Chatres, Duc d'Orleans. He married Princess Helene of Mecklenburg-Schwerin and had two sons.

* Princess Louise d'Orleans (1812-1850). She married Leopold I, King of the Beligians, and had three sons and one daughter.

* Princess Marie d'Orleans (1813-1839). She married Alexander, Duke of Wurttemburg and had one son.

* Louis (1814-1896), Duc de Nemours. He married Princess Viktoria of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and had two sons and two daughters.

* Princess Francoise Louis Caroline d'Orleans (1816-1818).

* Princess Clementine d'Orleans (1817-1907). She married Prince Augustus of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and had three sons and two daughters.

* Francois (1818-1900), Prince de Joinville. He married Francisca de Braganca, daughter of Emperor Pedro I of Brazil and had one son and one daughter.

* Charles-Ferdinand Philippe Emmanuel (1820-1828), Duc de Penthieve.

* Henri (1822-1897), Duc d'Aumale. He married Maria Carolina of the Two Siciles and had four sons.

* Antoine (1824-1890), Duc de Montpensier. He married Luisa of Spain and had five daughters and four sons.

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2005, 04:46:26 PM »
Ferdinand Philippe Louis Charles Henri Joseph  was born on 3 September 1810. He was Duc de Chatres from birth and Duc d'Orleans from 1830, when his father became King of the French.

His wife, Helene of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, was born on January 24 1814. She gave him two children:

* Philippe, Comte de Paris (1838-1894). He married Maria Isabelle d'Orleans, daughter of Ferdinand's brother Antoine, and they had 8 children, including Helene d'Orleans, who was betrothed to Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence.

* Robert, Duc de Chatres (1840-1910). He married Francoise d'Orleans, daughter of Ferdinand's brother Francois.

Apparently, Ferdinand and Helene were a very happy couple, until he very sadly died in a carriage accident in 1840. Helene died 16 years later, still distraught. She died in England, having fled France in 1848.
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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2005, 04:56:46 PM »
Louis Charles Philippe Raphael, duc de Nemours, was born on 25 October 1814 at the Palais Royal in Paris. When he was 12 he was nominated Colonel of the first regiment of chasseurs, and in 1825 his name was linked with the throne of Greece.

He was in fact elected King of the Belgians in 1831, but his father King Louis Philippe rejected the offer on his behalf.

He saw active service at the siege of Antwerp in 1831, and came very close to danger.

In 1840 he married Princess Viktoria of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, daughter of Duke Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. His importance increased with the death of his elder brother Ferdinand, since that made him regent designate in the case of his young nephew, the Comte de Paris, suddenly becoming King.

He bravely stayed in the Tuileries during the 1848 revolution, and only managed to escape France by disguising as a national guard. In England, he lived with his parents in Claremont. He did his best, after his father's death, to reunite the two warring sides of the Bourbon royal house - that of the Comte de Chambord and the Orleanist side.

In fact, Louis and his brother the Prince of Joinville said they would allow the tricolour to be the official flag of France if the Royal family was restored, something which the Comte de Chambord of the others refused to do. As we know, it was all in vain.

He returned to France in 1871 and took up his position in the army again. He was President of the Red Cross and an important part of Parisian society until the 1880s.

He died at Versailles in 1896, Duchess Viktoria having died in 1857. She had given him these children:

   * Louis Philippe Marie Ferdinand Gaston, comte d'Eu (1842-1922), who married Isabella, eldest daughter of Don Pedro II of Brazil. His great-grandson, Duarte Pio, Duke of Braganza is the current presumptive heir to the throne of Portugal.
   * Ferdinand Philippe Marie, duc d'Alençon (July 12, 1844 - June 29, 1910), who married Sophie Charlotte Augustine Duchess in Bavaria (1847-1897), sister of the empress Elizabeth of Austria ("Sisi"), and who had been for a time engaged to Ludwig II of Bavaria
   * Margaret (1846-1893), who married Prince Ladislas Czartoryski
   * Blanche (b. 1857).
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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2005, 04:58:05 PM »
More tomorrow!  :)
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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2005, 12:52:20 AM »
Good work prince_Lieven !

Here it is the duc d'Aumale with the prince of Joinville in 1848 (from the  reunion of national museums ) :

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2005, 12:56:45 AM »
Françoise de Bragance, wife of the prince of Joinville in 1843 (from the collection of Paul Frecker ) :



In 1844 (by Winterhalter Franz Xaver):

http://www.photo.rmn.fr/LowRes2/TR1/UF5VT/87-000043.jpg


Her daugther  Françoise d’Orléans-Joinville (1844-1925):

http://www.paulfrecker.com/images/csChartres.jpg


Her son Pierre, Duc de Penthièvre (1845-1919):

http://www.paulfrecker.com/images/csPenthievre.jpg


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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2005, 01:04:59 AM »
The duc d'Aumale in 1896 (from the reunion of national museums) :


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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2005, 01:08:02 AM »
Antoine d'Orléans, duc de Montpensier (1824-1890) in 1844 by Winterhalter Franz Xaver (from the rmn) :


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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2005, 02:20:17 PM »
C'est magnifique, Helene! Merci beaucoup!!!  :D :D

Ok, another bio for you guys:

Princess Louise-Marie Therese Charlotte Isabelle d'Orleans was born on 3 April 1812. On 9 August 1832 she married the newly elected King Leopold of Belgium, formerly Prince Leopold of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, uncle of the future Queen Victoria.

Louise gave Leopold the following children:
   * Louis-Philippe Leopold Victor Ernst of Saxe-Coburg, born on July 24, 1833, but died the following year on May 16, 1834;
   * Leopold Louis-Philippe Marie Victor of Saxe-Coburg, born in Brussels on April 9, 1835, the second King of the Belgians;
   * Philippe Eugène Ferdinand Marie Clément Baudouin Leopold George, Count of Flanders, born in Laeken on March 24, 1837 and died in Brussels on November 17, 1905, whose son succeeded Leopold II as Albert.
   * Marie-Charlotte Amélie Auguste Victoire Clémentine Léopoldine, born in Laeken on June 7, 1840 and died in Meise on January 19, 1927, wife of Emperor Maximilian of Mexico.

By all accounts it was a happy match, and Queen Victoria was apparently fond of 'Aunt Louise'. Louise died on October 11 1850.
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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2005, 02:27:08 PM »
Princess Clementine d'Orleans was born in Neuilly on March 6 1817, and became a Princess of France at the age of 13 with her father's accession in 1830.

Clementine was ambitious, and wanted to marry a king. She selected Prince Augustus of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha as one likely to be elected a king someday. The were married on 20 April 1843 in Saint Cloud.

Augustus never became a king, but they had four children:

   * Philip, who married his cousin, Louise, daughter of Leopold II of Belgium
   * Augustus, who married Leopoldine, daughter of Pedro II of Brazil
   * Amelie, who married Duke Maximillan, the brother of Empress Elizabeth of Austria
   * Ferdinand, who would become Tsar of Bulgaria.

After the Revolution of 1848, the family moved to Vienna, where Augustus was in the Austrian army. Clementine was disappointed that she would never be a queen. But she began to lobby for the rights of her son Ferdinand, who, she said, had such important ancestors he should be king of something.

Her wish came true when Ferdinand became Prince of Bulgaria, succeeding the hapless 'Sandro' of Battenberg. Ferdinand often asked Clementine's advice on political matters, and she was extremely popular in Bulgaria for her gifts of money to various charities.

She eventually became so old that it became an occupational hazard to work at the Bulgarian court because one would have to tolerate her attendants shouting at her to make her hear them!

She died in 1907, aged 90, her tomb reading 'King's daughter, no Queen herself, yet King's mother.'
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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2005, 02:39:13 PM »
François-Ferdinand-Philippe-Louis-Marie d'Orléans, prince de Joinville was born on 14 August 1818 in Neuilly. He joined the navy, and became a lieutenant in 1836. He served at the   bombardment of San Juan de Ulloa, in November 1838, and personally arrested Mexican general Arista prisoner at Veracruz.

He was promoted to captaine, and in 1840 was charged with bringing Napoleon's remains from St Helena to France. He served in the African campaigns on 1844 and gained considerable popularity in France.

In 1848 he went to Claremont to live with the rest of his family. When the  American Civil War broke out, he travelled to Washington DC and placed the services of his sons and two of his nephews at the pleasure of the US government.

He was allowed re enter France in 1870, but was expelled soon after. He returned in disguise, however, and joined the army under the name 'Colonel Rutherod.' He later revealed his identity and was sent back to England.

He was elected to a seat in the National Assembley in 1871, but his deafness prevented him from playing any real part in government, and he resigned in 1876. He died in Paris on 16 June 1900.

His wife Francoise, whom he had married in May 1843, gave him two children, the Duc de Penthieve, a naval man like his father, and a daughter, Francoise, who married the Duc de Chatres.

The Prince de Joinville wrote several (mostly naval related) pamphlets in his lifetime, originall published under an assumed name by revealed to be his after the fall of the Second Empire.

They include - Essais sur la marine francaise (1853); Etudes sur la marine (1859 and 1870); La Guerre d'Amérique, campagne du Potomac (1862 and 1872); Encore un mot sur Sadowa (Brussels, 1868); and Vieux souvenirs (1894).
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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2005, 04:39:38 PM »
Portrait of Princess Helene von Mecklenburg-Schwerin...

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2005, 04:40:32 PM »
Thanks Marc, much better than the little blurry pic I posted.  :)
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