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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #165 on: September 16, 2007, 09:50:10 PM »
Not a lot on her. just a few posed shots and the marriage pictures.  :(

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #166 on: September 23, 2007, 01:56:53 AM »
Not a lot on her. just a few posed shots and the marriage pictures.  :(

Oh, I like these pictures a lot. ;-) Most of them I have never seen before. The pic of Clémentine in a black dress with her little grandson Luitpold is really touching.
Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #167 on: November 05, 2007, 11:52:21 AM »
He was the 8th child of LouisPhilippe and Marie Amélie.
He was born in 1820 and died in 1828.
His immediate elder brother was François dk of Joinville and he was followed by Henri dk of Aumale.
What did he die of ?
Are there any pics of him, despite having died so young ?
Royals used to command portraits of their children from very early age, so maybe someone has spotted one of little Charles.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #168 on: November 10, 2007, 02:27:39 PM »
Hello,
You're right: Charles is born in 1820 and died 8 years later; but he was knew as "Charles de Penthièvre" (his brother Antoine, born in 1824, was "de Montpensier").

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #169 on: February 06, 2008, 11:49:32 AM »
http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q133/geneaguy/?action=view&current=CharlesdOrlans18201828ducdePenthivr.jpg
i think there is another pic of him but i don't remeber where i have seen it

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #170 on: February 07, 2008, 03:44:51 AM »
Very nice photo! Thank you!

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #171 on: May 07, 2008, 03:51:27 PM »
I have read, that little Charles was mentally and physically ill, is that true?

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #172 on: May 08, 2008, 01:54:56 AM »
Hello

I read in the biography of Louis-Philippe by Michel de Grèce that HSH The duke of Penthièvre had a poor health so that his parents decided to make him a clerk. If he had lived, he would have probably been an abbot or a bishop.

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« Reply #173 on: May 08, 2008, 04:07:18 AM »
sorry i can't give you the reference but I have a note that he was mentally handicapped.

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« Reply #174 on: May 08, 2008, 09:31:54 AM »
sorry i can't give you the reference but I have a note that he was mentally handicapped.

January 1st 1820: Marie-Amélie, duchess of Orléans, future Queen of the French, eight months gone, is attending the ceremony of the New year at the Court. She has been standing all the day. She cannot sit down.Towards night, at home, she brings to light  a boy named Charles and styled duc de Penthièvre. He'll be called "Pimpin" by his parents. Having a premature child at that time is a disaster. The father, duke of Orléans, realized that his son will not  be able to live.He is physically weak and mentally retarded. Marie Amélie writes in his diary: "The poor little Penthièvre".  A servant, Joseph Uginet, who is also a... police spy, looks after the little sick boy with a great attachment. Lingering illness and convulsions suceed each other alternately. "Pimpin" dies in dreadful spasms on july 25th 1828.
The description given by his mother let think that the child had been probably suffering from epilepsy....(Source: Marie-Amélie's diary)

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #175 on: May 08, 2008, 04:24:21 PM »
Thanks for answering this long-forgotten thread.
Lovely picture, and very poignant considering what was said about him.
I knew nothing of his condition, despite his early death could have been dictated by a poor health.

About his nephews.
Henri duke of Aumale had, at least 7 children, of which only 2 arrived to adulthood:
Louis-Philippe, pr. de Condé (1845-66) and
François, duke of Guise (1854-72)

I imagine there are photos of both and someone hopefully will post them.
What did they die of , one at 21, the other at 28 ?

http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=pt;i=198609


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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #176 on: May 09, 2008, 06:30:46 AM »
yes, thank you for that


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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #178 on: May 09, 2008, 02:54:45 PM »
Thanks a lot.
I know that site but I have never seen such photo.
It must have been put there recently.

Let's hope someone will find a picture of his brother Guise.
I suppose at their parent's "house", Chateau de Chantilly, there will be paintings of both brothers.

Condé does not look very healthy.
Or may be it is just that romantic blasé poise.
Anybody knows what did he die of ?

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Re: King Louis Philippe and his family
« Reply #179 on: May 10, 2008, 08:31:08 AM »
Thanks for answering this long-forgotten thread.
Lovely picture, and very poignant considering what was said about him.
I knew nothing of his condition, despite his early death could have been dictated by a poor health.

About his nephews.
Henri duke of Aumale had, at least 7 children, of which only 2 arrived to adulthood:
Louis-Philippe, pr. de Condé (1845-66) and
François, duke of Guise (1854-72)

I imagine there are photos of both and someone hopefully will post them.
What did they die of , one at 21, the other at 28 ?

http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=pt;i=198609





Dear José
1) Louis Philippe d'Orléans, prince de Condé, "Guégué" for his family, died in Sydney (Australia) in 1866, may 24th of thyphoidal fever against which the medecine can nothing at that time.The prince was engaged  with his first cousin Marguerite, duke of Nemours's daughter. In 1863, the prince Louis Philippe dissuaded his father to accept the throne of Greece.
You can find a pic of Condé on www.royalguide.nl/families/bourbon/bborleans.
2) As for François d'Orléans, duc de Guise, he died (at 18 years old and no at 28) of "terrible thyphoidal fever", following Berthe  of Clinchamp, Duke of Aumale's friend. In his agenda, duke of Aumale says: "scarlet fever". Other sources mention: "cerebral illness (?)
The prince François called his father: "Pips" !
He has left a diary.
The painter JALABERT has  left portraits of the two princes .
Sources:" Le duc d'Aumale" by Raymond CHAZELLES (in french).

Remi