Author Topic: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox  (Read 57407 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ilyala

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 2063
  • il y a
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2006, 05:59:04 PM »
i don't think i can call mary rose flirty. she was determined and wanted charles brandon so she went after him. but she had  a stable and calm family life while her sister also went after her man, then she left him, married another man and then wanted to leave him too  :-/
'loving might be a mistake, but it's worth making'
ilya


Offline Prince_Lieven

  • Moderator
  • Velikye Knyaz
  • *****
  • Posts: 6570
  • To Be Useful In All That I Do
    • View Profile
    • Edward III's Descendants
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2006, 06:04:58 PM »
Ok, point taken.  ;)
"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
-Sherlock Holmes

"Men forget, but never forgive; women forgive, but never forget."

Offline ilyala

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 2063
  • il y a
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2006, 06:28:19 PM »
as a sidenote, i've always found it strange how all of henry 7th's children seemed to take up more from the york side of the family. most especially edward 4th. physically also, henry 8th inherited his huge stature from his maternal grandfather. henry 7th and his wife were both pretty... i don't know what word to use here... both practical and quiet, doing what they had to do... henry 7ths mother was known to be very religious. i don't know much about his father, but i believe that had he been a flirt it would have been known, he surely was old enough to be. maybe catherine of valois and owen tudor were a bit non comformists, but they were more like mary rose, in the 'going after what you wanted and then calm down and have a nice family life' sort of way.

on the other hand, we all know what edward 4th was like :P
'loving might be a mistake, but it's worth making'
ilya


Offline Prince_Lieven

  • Moderator
  • Velikye Knyaz
  • *****
  • Posts: 6570
  • To Be Useful In All That I Do
    • View Profile
    • Edward III's Descendants
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2006, 06:32:05 PM »
Maybe conscientious was the word you needed?  ;)

And of course, Elizabeth Woodville went after what she wanted but didn't settle down to a quiet life!  ;D
"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
-Sherlock Holmes

"Men forget, but never forgive; women forgive, but never forget."

Offline ilyala

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 2063
  • il y a
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2006, 06:36:12 PM »
exactly. maybe in a more subtle way the yorks did win the wars of the roses. henry was a lancaster, but his children were yorks :)
'loving might be a mistake, but it's worth making'
ilya


Offline Prince_Lieven

  • Moderator
  • Velikye Knyaz
  • *****
  • Posts: 6570
  • To Be Useful In All That I Do
    • View Profile
    • Edward III's Descendants
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2006, 06:38:56 PM »
Yes, that's a nice way to put it.  :) Now we're so far off topic we'd better return to Lady M.  ;D
"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
-Sherlock Holmes

"Men forget, but never forgive; women forgive, but never forget."

Offline ilyala

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 2063
  • il y a
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2006, 06:41:34 PM »
who proved to be worthy of her york predecessors ;D
'loving might be a mistake, but it's worth making'
ilya


Offline bell_the_cat

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1678
  • I am he, who will bell the cat
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2006, 01:24:47 AM »
Quote

Hi!

I think it hasn't come up earlier, but after reading Alison Weir's biography on Henry VIII, i've discovered that the Lady Margaret was a very flirtatious (how euphemistic) young woman. She was imprisoned in Syon House in 1540 because she became involved with Catherine Howard's brother Charles. She was imprisoned there and Charles was sent to Calais, where he died in late 1542. Margaret would only be released from Syon House in November 1541, when the building was to be used as a prison for a more important person...


She had two boyfriends (maybe more) before she got married at the age of twenty-nine. Sounds quite normal to me! :D
Never put off until tomorrow what you can put off until the day after tomorrow. (Mark Twain)

Offline Prince_Lieven

  • Moderator
  • Velikye Knyaz
  • *****
  • Posts: 6570
  • To Be Useful In All That I Do
    • View Profile
    • Edward III's Descendants
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2006, 11:07:23 AM »
Quote

She had two boyfriends (maybe more) before she got married at the age of twenty-nine. Sounds quite normal to me! :D


Yes indeed, especially considering her good looks.  ;D
"How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
-Sherlock Holmes

"Men forget, but never forgive; women forgive, but never forget."

Offline umigon

  • Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 933
    • View Profile
    • My Family Tree
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2006, 12:08:28 PM »
Quote

Yes indeed, especially considering her good looks.  ;D


About her looks... I always read that Margaret was the Tudor beauty, like if she had inherited Mary Rose's place. But then, when confronted with her portraits, I can't really see that beauty she was proclaimed to have.
Gonzalo Velasco Berenguer

My Family Tree: www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=umigon

Royal Families: www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=gondan

Offline ilyala

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 2063
  • il y a
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #55 on: January 02, 2006, 02:58:28 PM »
the standards of beauty were different back then... also the portraits were maybe not very accurate...
'loving might be a mistake, but it's worth making'
ilya


Offline bell_the_cat

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1678
  • I am he, who will bell the cat
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2006, 01:59:49 AM »
I've never seen a picture of a young Margaret. In her later portraits she looks understandably haggard.

Her son Henry was also supposed to be very good looking.
Never put off until tomorrow what you can put off until the day after tomorrow. (Mark Twain)

Offline ilyala

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 2063
  • il y a
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2006, 03:40:35 AM »
in the only portrait i know of darnley he looks kind of... girlish... i suppose that's what was appreciated at the time  :-/

'loving might be a mistake, but it's worth making'
ilya


Offline bell_the_cat

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 1678
  • I am he, who will bell the cat
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2006, 04:11:27 AM »
Here's a better one with his brother. Still a bit girly though!

« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM by bell_the_cat »
Never put off until tomorrow what you can put off until the day after tomorrow. (Mark Twain)

Offline ilyala

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 2063
  • il y a
    • View Profile
Re: Lady Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox
« Reply #59 on: January 03, 2006, 04:26:27 AM »
i liked bothwell better... :P
'loving might be a mistake, but it's worth making'
ilya