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« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2008, 02:40:38 PM »
Interesting! is anything known about this young lady? What about her family? Is she "noble"?:)

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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2008, 01:35:43 AM »
The second son of the duchesse de Montpensier, Marie-Thérèse de Wurtemberg, and the Comte de Paris, Henri d’Orléans has announced on the  28th of november 2008, his engagement to Doña Philomena de Tornos y Steinhart.

Doña Philomena de Tornos y Steinhart is the grand-daughter of Juan de Tornos y Espeliú, the former private secretary of the late Count of Barcelona, the Infante Juan of Spain, who  is the father of King Juan Carlos I of Spain.

It is the second engagement of Jean d’Orléans, since in 2001 his engagement to Tatjana d’ Oldenbourg, a German aristocrat Duchess, had been cancelled supposedly because of her religion six months after the announcement.

Due to the handicap of his elder brother, François d’Orléans, the Duc de Vendôme is considered by the Orléanistes as the heir to the throne of France

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http://royalandco.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/jean-d-orleans-engaged-to-philomena-de-tornos/

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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2008, 06:53:24 PM »
Hein posted on Franco-Iberian board genealogy of de Tornos family...It seems that they noble and have connections with the House of Oldenburg(House of Jean's ex Duchess Tatiana von Oldenburg) through Princess Maria Anna Leopoldine von Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck(1717 - 1789) from which she has descended:

Jose Antonio Ybarra y de los Santos, industrialist (1774-1849), m.1801 Jeronima Genoveva (Geroma) Gutiérrez de Caviedes (1779-1837)
1. María de la Concepción de Ybarra y Gutiérrez de Caviedes, m. Juan Francisco Ramón de Zabalburu Murga >>> descendants
2. Luisa de Ybarra y Gutiérrez de Caviedes, m. Femando Galíndez de San Pedro >>> no descendants
3. Juan María de Ybarra y Gutiérrez de Caviedes (*1809) >>> descendants
4. Gabriel María de Ybarra y Gutiérrez de Caviedes >>> descendants
5. José María de Ybarra y Gutiérrez de Caviedes, 1st Conde de Ibarra (* 1816) >>> descendants
6. Jerónima de Ybarra y Gutiérrez de Caviedes, m. José de Murrieta >>> no descendants
7. Prudencia de Ibarra y Gutiérrez de Caviedes (*1819), m.1844 Cosme de Zubiría y Echeandía.
7.1. José María de Zubiría y Ybarra
7.2. Luis de Zubiría y Ybarra, m. Florentina Urízar y Roales
7.2.1. Luis Zubiría y Urízar, 2nd Marqués de Yanduri , m.1st ------------ Galíndez, m.2nd Josefa Calbetón y Undabeytia
7.2.1.1. Luis de Zubiria y Galíndez, 3rd Marqués de Yanduri
7.2.1.2. María del Carmen de Zubiría y Calbetón, m.1930 or 1931 Juan de Tornos y Espelíu(s) [son of -------- de Tornos and María de los Ángeles Espelíu(s) y Anduaga]
7.2.1.2.1. María del Mar de Tornos y Zubiria (*1931), m.1961 Manuel de Sousa e Holstein Beck, 4th Conde da Póvoa (*1932) [son of Domingos de Sousa e Holstein Beck, 5th Duque de Palmela and Maria do Carmo Pinheiro de Melo]
7.2.1.2.1.1. João Domingos de Sousa e Holstein Beck, 3rd Barão de Teixeira (*1962), m. Margarita Gomez-Acebo y Cavero
7.2.1.2.1.1.1. D. Manuel de Sousa e Holstein Beck y Gomez Acebo (*1994)
7.2.1.2.1.2. D. Helena Maria de Sousa e Holstein Beck (*1963), m. António Gonçalo Rubio de Faria Blanc
7.2.1.2.1.2.1. António de Sousa e Holstein Faria Blanc (*1987)
7.2.1.2.1.2.2. Matilde de Sousa e Holstein Faria Blanc (*1989)
7.2.1.2.1.3.D. Isabel Juliana de Sousa e Holstein Beck (*1963), m. Ricardo Maria Mello Gouveia Ferreira Girão
7.2.1.2.1.3.1. Maria do Carmo de Sousa e Holstein Girão (*1986)
7.2.1.2.1.3.2. Mariana de Sousa e Holstein Girão (*1989)
7.2.1.2.1.3.3. Teresa Mónica de Sousa e Holstein Girão
7.2.1.2.2. Alfredo de Tornos y Zubiría, m. María Luisa de Eizaguirre y Diaz de Rivera
7.2.1.2.2.1. María del Carmen de Tornos y Eizaguirre, 4th Marquesa de Yanduri in 2001
7.2.1.2.3. Alfonso de Tornos y Zubiria, m. Marie Antonia [Edle von ???] Steinhart
7.2.1.2.3.1. Philomena de Tornos y Steinhart, engaged 2008 to Prince Jean of France, Duc de Vendôme
7.2.1.2.3.2. Maria Magdalena de Tornos y Steinhart
7.2.1.2.3.3. David de Tornos y Steinhart
7.2.1.3. María de la Mercedes de Zubiría y Urízar, m. José de Churruca y Calbetón, Conde de Motrico >>> descendants
7.3. María del Carmen de Zubiría y Ybarra
7.4. María del Pilar de Zubiría y Ybarra
7.5. María del Rosario de Zubiría y Ybarra
7.6. Manuela de Zubiría y Ybarra
7.7. Tomas de Zubiría y Ybarra, 1st Conde de Zubiria in 1907 (1857-1932), m.1888 María del Carmen Somonte y Basabe >>> descendants
7.8. Pedro Salustiano Florencio de Zubiría (Echeandia) y Ybarra/Ibarra, 1st Marqués de Yanduri in 1914 (1862-1921), m.1893 Teresa Parladé y Heredia (1869-1933)

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Re: House Bourbon-Orléans today. News and announcements
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2008, 07:01:46 PM »
Sorry,my mistake,Philomena's aunt Marie married to the descedant of Princess Maria Anna Leopoldine von Holstein-Sonderburg-Beck...

Philomena's mother is as we see Edle von Steinhart if that is not a mistake...

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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2008, 07:11:43 PM »
And her great-grandfather is Don Luis Zubiria y Urizar,2nd Marquss de Yandur...

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Re: House Bourbon-Orléans today. News and announcements
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2009, 11:33:29 PM »
The couple married thursday march 19th in a civil ceremony in Paris at the 7th arrondissement with many if not most of the Orleans family present,
family and friends all in all about 70.Afterwards there was a party at the Marquise de Dreux Brézé's house,a first cousin of the present Comte de Paris.
 


The religious ceremony will on the 2nd of may at Senlis
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Re: House Bourbon-Orléans today. News and announcements
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2009, 08:06:19 AM »
I was there myself yesterday afternoon. It took quite a while for the bride, groom & guests to come out of the townhall but I had a lovely time with fellow royalists under a dazzling sun meanwhile.

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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2009, 10:00:57 AM »
Agneschen - are you back?  :-) :-) :-)
Ich aber breite trauernd aus
die weiten weissen Schwingen,
Und kehr' ins Feenreich nach Haus -
Nichts soll mich wieder bringen.


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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2009, 10:24:40 AM »
Agneschen - are you back?  :-) :-) :-)

I am indeed dear Marie !!

To go back to the civil wedding of Duke Jean, the bride had hardly left her car that photographers jumped on her in a most undignified way and she had almost trouble getting her way to the townhall. Impossible for us simple mortals to take a pic. It was pretty difficult photographing her when she left the townhall as well as her car drove through the people to pick her up right under the steps (and almost ran on my feet). Photographing the groom and the guest was pretty easy, they all look happy and smiling. The Duke of Orléans was the first to leave and did so on his bicycle under the photographers' surprised eyes ! A TV team was also there and filmed a few of us (they tried to ask me a few questions but I begin hiding behind my hair and replied in a very short manner as I hate being filmed - hope they will cut me !!). We were about 20 to 25 eagerly awaiting our Dauphin and his bride.
I am planning to go to Senlis on May 2 for the religious wedding.  I will do my best to bring back pics.

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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2009, 12:38:24 AM »
They are even related...the have both descended from Dobrzensky von Dobrzenicz family...

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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2009, 06:22:38 AM »
They are even related...the have both descended from Dobrzensky von Dobrzenicz family...

Yes,it is all in here somewhere,but you know this fantastic site already:

http://www.angelfire.com/in/heinbruins/index.html

courtesy dear Hein.
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« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2009, 06:42:44 AM »
I know,thanks Lucien...but at the beginning we didn't know she was even noble...now we know that she is noble from both sides of her parents...and even related to her future husband...

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« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2009, 04:27:44 PM »
More pics from the civil wedding to be found at http://www.sipausa.com/ximagi/search.php?sort=celeb&assignment_id=4571#page=0&view=gallery&key=

Pics of the engaged couple and their respective families can also be found at :http://www.picturedesk.com/ (type "Philomena de Tornos" in the search field).
They were taken last Christmas in Vienna. I believe they are the first pictures I have ever seen of Eudes & Marie Liesse of Angoulème's children, Pierre & Thérèse (both seem to have inherited the famous Orléans blue eyes). Pics of Prince François & Princess Blanche, who are both handicapped, are also rare.
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« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2009, 08:37:15 AM »
Pictures of the bride, groom & guests to be found at : http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&p=philomena%20tornos&src=standard#

Sadly the groom's mother Marie Thérèse, Duchess of Montpensier, was unable to attend as she has been admited to hospital yesterday. Her condition is reported not to be serious but how sad it must have been for her to miss her son's wedding. Prince Jean entered the church with his maternal aunt Marie Christine Liechenstein.

The bridal dress is a creation of French fashion designer Christian Lacroix. The turquoise tiara & the veil belong to the bride's family. I personally do not quite like her dress & tiara : not the best combination of colors I have seen ... the flower embroidered bolero is very lovely though.