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Offline bachounet

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Re: Counts Sheremetev
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2015, 01:02:33 PM »
Hello, I've been looking for a very long time for information on Vera Chemeretiev, a woman who married Israel Tcherniak (Nathalie Sarraute's father) but I can't find any.
Does any of you know anything of her ?

Thank you very much. :)

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Re: Counts Sheremetev
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2015, 02:48:42 PM »
According to her autobiographical book "L'Enfance" Vera's mother was "Alexandra Karlovna". 

There is no "Alexandra Karlovna Cheremetiev" found in the noble family line.  Given that Tcherniak was Jewish, it is unlikely that one of the "noble" Cheremetievs would have married a Jew.

There seems to be no connection to this specific family.

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Re: Counts Sheremetev
« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2015, 03:18:36 PM »
So is everyone (or most people) with the last name sheremetev a descendent of this noble family? In another post, someone said there are 2 main branches. Are they related or unrelated? is the spelling interchangeable? Is there a family tree I can look up somewhere? I also heard there was an airport. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

While Sheremetev isn't one of the most common Russian surnames, I'd say most people with that name are not descendants of the noble family: Proof: Wikipedia lists several Soviet-era celebrities in sports etc. called Sheremetev. They would never have been allowed to live and prosper if they had been nobles.

Does anyone know the origin of the name Sheremetev? It was first born by the 16th-century boyar brothers Ivan, Vasiliy and Boris, sons of Andrey Bezzubtsev, himself the great great grandson of Andrey Kobyla, the ancestor of the Romanovs. Ivan Andreyevich Sheremetev was voyevode of Tula and took part in campaigns against Turkic and Tartaric peoples, which would be the occassion for adopting the name Sheremetev, if the theories that derive it from Chuvash sheremet, poor man, or Tatar/Turkic-Persian shir hmd, Ahmed the Lion, are true. And honestly Sheremet- sounds more Oriental than Slavic.

But if it's a "nom de guerre" from a foreign language, how does one explain all the non-noble Sheremetevs (in imitation of the noble Sheremetevs?) and the dozen villages called Sheremetyevo? Are all of them named after the family or are both they and the families named after some obscure person, feature or concept?
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Re: Counts Sheremetev
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2017, 08:32:32 AM »
Hi,

Does anyone know if any extracts from the book by Count Dmitri Sergevich Sheremetev: Rare Memoirs of Tsar Nicholas II by Count Sheremetiev 1936 have been translated in English?

http://www.bibelotslondon.co.uk/shop/4586332944/rare-memoirs-of-tsar-nicholas-ii-by-count-sheremetiev-1936/11082205

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Re: Counts Sheremetev
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2017, 09:15:15 AM »
Unfortunately, I cannot answer your question, but please note that "rare" must be the seller's description of the book -- it is not part of the Russian title itself.
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Re: Counts Sheremetev
« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2017, 10:07:05 AM »
Thank you father,

The reason I wanted to know is because in the website of St Nicholas Russian Orthodox Church in McKinney, Texas, they have a biography of the Royal Martyrs and there's a story there ascribed to Count Sheremetev, which I would think has been taken from his Memoirs. So, I just wanted to make sure. It starts like this "In 1915, the following event described by Count Sheremetiev took place when the Tsar and his family arrived in Sebastopol:...". Here is the link: http://www.orthodox.net/russiannm/nicholas-ii-tsar-martyr-and-his-family.html

Thanks again for your help.