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Re: King Louis XV and his family
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2006, 11:12:54 AM »
The french version will be Marie instead of Maria.  In polish, german, russian it will be Maria, but not in french as far as I know.  Where are all our french members?

Also Marie was fluent in 6 languages: polish, german, french, italian, swedish and latin.  Quite something, don't you think?  Not for the faint hearted!

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Re: King Louis XV and his family
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2006, 11:21:14 AM »
Thanks. All those languages - certainly an achievement! Was there a political treaty included in her marriage?
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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2006, 11:44:19 AM »
That was the whole thing.  Her marriage was one where no political treaty was involved as France at that time was caught in a situation where they did not want to lean over one way or another, so the neutral choice of the daughter of the deposed Polish monarch was a "safe" choice.

Mind you the Leczinski family can trace their family line back to the X'th century!  One of the noblest Polish families.

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« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2006, 11:58:28 AM »
She was an etiquette lover!!!!






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« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2006, 12:03:10 PM »
and this one painted by Louis Tocque currently at the Louvres.


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« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2006, 12:37:08 PM »
Thanks for the pictures Sissi.  Please post some more, as well as busts if you can find!  :)

Although she was not pretty by conventional standards she had an excellent upbringing, carried herself very well and was very good at dancing.  All good traits for a queen.  Her husband certainly kept her very busy with having babies the first ten or so years of their marriage, and yes, he was really in love with her from first sight.  Can anyone find the painting that was initially sent to the French Court when one of the other ducs were interested in marrying her?  It was either the Duc de Bourbon or the Duc de Bourgogne.  Then of course the King got first pick at the cherry.  ;D

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« Reply #51 on: March 07, 2006, 01:37:46 PM »


Here is anothe on dear Pers

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« Reply #52 on: March 07, 2006, 02:06:07 PM »
I know you said bust but I found this plate from the manufacture de Sevres with a portrait of the queen!! ;D

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« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2006, 02:16:55 PM »


She looks atractive in this one!!! !



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Re: King Louis XV and his family
« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2006, 08:05:51 AM »
Marie's father had a long life didn't he - he lived to be 88! As far as I know, Marie's ancestry - I traced to the 1550s - is exclusively Polish.
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« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2006, 08:12:21 AM »
According to this book I'm reading, it goes back to the 10th century.  It is a series of books called "Les Reines de France", the specific one being about ML, I think the author is Guy de Rochefaucould (sic).

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Re: King Louis XV and his family
« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2006, 09:15:03 AM »
Didn't Louis XV bestow honours on her father, like making him a French duke of something?
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« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2006, 11:02:02 AM »
Stanislas Leczinski became Duc de Lorraine as part of a deal between Louis XV and the Austrians.  Franz Stephan of Lorraine had to give up his dukedom to France as the price for becoming the husband of Maria Theresa and thus eventually Holy Roman Emperor - he was extremely upset by this, but gave in and that is when the family became that of Habsburg-Lorraine. The duchy of Lorraine was absorbed at the death of Stanislas into the kingdom of France.  

Stanislas established his own little court at Nancy and enjoyed himself very much, with his mistresses to keep things jolly and distinguished visitors such as Voltaire to add a bit of class.  He wasn't very pious and although he had a comforting correspondence with his daughter, he maintained she was the only person he knew who was duller than his wife.  He was over the moon when it was proposed that his daughter would be Queen of France and rushed in to her with such a look of joy that she cried "What has happened?  Are you going, as King, to Poland?" to which he replied, "No, no, you are going, as Queen, to France!"

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Re: King Louis XV and his family
« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2006, 01:01:27 PM »
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