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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2009, 10:38:58 PM »
Yes, that's the one!  Thank you very much!  :)

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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2009, 06:49:42 AM »
I am looking for an article: "Адини и ее приданое" by Василиса Пахомова-Гёрес.
Does someone have it?

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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2009, 07:04:59 AM »
I am looking for an article: "Адини и ее приданое" by Василиса Пахомова-Гёрес.
Does someone have it?

The article had been publsihed in "Nashe Nasledie", Russian magazine , in 2000 year. But there's no on-line version of that issue.

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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2009, 12:47:24 PM »
Ample info on GD Alexandra Nikolaevna is presented in the memories of her sister Olga, the queen of Wurtemberg. These memories have already benn mentioned in this thread - СОН ЮНОСТИ (  I read that the book was translated as THE GOLDEN DREAM OF YOUTH if I do remember correctly). This is a moving account by Alexandra`s loving sister. GD Alexandra was called ADINI  in her family. Olga calls her a "sunbeam whom God wished to take". She is compared to a "lark" that "emanates with joy". Her untimely death was "the privilege of the chosen". I see her "covered with sunbeams", writes Olga.
She was a very talented and intelligent girl. At 11 she was able to conduct a conversation with the adults during meals, she also had a thetrica talent & could mock historical personages.

Alexanddra was 3 years younger than Olga (pretty big age difference in case of adolescents) so they got really close when Maria married the Duke of Leuhtenberg and Sasha ( the heir to the throne, future Alexander II) was away abroad ( i.e. he was touring European courts in search of a bride. diuring this tour he met Marie of Hesse, his future wife). the 2 sisters were so close ( as well as other siblings) and were so unaware of the existence of other people`s company that Elena Paulovna , GD Mikhail`s wife, started taking them to the suitable parties. EP even compared them to a herd cattle thinking and behaving in the same way, unable to imagine that there exists a different life.

Olga was courted by a few candidates (including Stefan, the Hungarian palatine married to Alexandra Pavlovn, her late aunt) but it didn`t work out. Court members were shocked thatshe was becoming a spinster ( at 21!). Her sister Maria met Fritz of Hesse in Italy and thought that he was a suitable candidate for Olga. He had no kingdom but belonging to the House of Hesse-Cassel he could be the heir. Fritz was invited to Russia. The first meeting was rather nice, and Olga detected "kindness" in his eyes. During the first day of his visit Fritz didn`t meet Alexandra `caus e she was ill. He met her the next day and Olga detected that something "significant " happened between them. Alexandra wrote inher diary : "he shook my hand and I became immensely happy and thrilled".
Olga decided to give up `cause he sister`s happiness was uppermost in her mind. She told her mother :"She loves him".

TO BE CONTINUED

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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2009, 04:43:41 PM »
ABOUT GD ALEXANDRA NIKOLAEVNA by her sister Olga, the queen of Wurtemberg

These are some scraps of memory from Queen Olga. her memories span the period from her birth to the moment of her marriage. She deliberately finishes her memories at this point. the moment of her marriage is a happy, she had so elevated feelings  at that period but she hints that her future was not so bright. she hints there were ups and downs in her marriage, she states that life was a little contrary to her expectations.

But going back to Alexandra it`s necessary to say that Olga decided to support her sister although she took to Fritz og Hesse. Alexandra was immensely happy, and Olga remarked thatAdini was to some extent lucky because she died at 19 so she didn`t experience disappointments of grown up life.

She died of tuberculosis. She spent the last years of her life in Tsarskoe Selo. After her death Nikolay I ordered to destroy the rooms that she spent her last months and ordered to rearrange them so that they didbn`t remind him of his daughter`s agony. He suddenly grew old.Before her death she gave birth to a boy who died a few hous later (it was premature birth).She was buried with a boy in her arms.


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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2009, 04:33:30 AM »
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Olga remarked thatAdini was to some extent lucky because she died at 19 so she didn`t experience disappointments of grown up life.

Presumably Olga's own unhappy marriage coloured her remarks - I can't think that dying at 19 of TB is fortunate in any sense.  But in times when the deaths of children and young people were much more common than now, the trite observations of "s/he is much better off in heaven" and "thank goodness they didn't live to see hard times" were probably the only way you could really console yourself for events which seemed so unfair.  Queen Victoria was fond of that type of observation, especially about beloved Albert.

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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2009, 03:35:48 PM »
i  totally agree with you. at those distant times there were ab 7-9 children in an average family  (or even more). Pavel I had 4 sons + 5 daughters (Olga died in infancy) so the death of one child or 2 children was perceived as a normal phenomenon. olga nikolaevna mildly hints at the disappointments in her own mariage. one of the main disappointments must have been the inability to have children (presumably because of her husband`s veneric disease before the marriage). this mode of thinking "she ia much better off in heaven" was so common.it might have brought consolation to the bereaved relatives

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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2009, 01:13:26 PM »
Violetta, have you actually read the memoirs of Olga of Wurttemberg?  It sounds like you know a great deal on the subject, and I would love to read whatever is available on the subject of Alexandra Nikolaevna. 

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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2009, 03:11:55 PM »
Violetta, have you actually read the memoirs of Olga of Wurttemberg?  It sounds like you know a great deal on the subject, and I would love to read whatever is available on the subject of Alexandra Nikolaevna. 

Yes, LittleLulu, I have read memories of Olga of Wurttemberg. One of the forum members asked me about her memories in English. I tried to trace down her memories in English but I couldn`t find any. below you have the webaddress of her memories in Russian.Do you read Russian?

http://www.dugward.ru/library/olga_nick.html


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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2009, 03:28:18 PM »


With her sister Olga


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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2009, 07:18:33 PM »
another picture. sorry for the quality,the picture was taken in the KADRIORG palace in tallin. the portrait hangs at the staircse. there are also other pictures of nikolay I`s daughters in kadriorg


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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2009, 07:28:36 PM »
Violetta, have you actually read the memoirs of Olga of Wurttemberg?  It sounds like you know a great deal on the subject, and I would love to read whatever is available on the subject of Alexandra Nikolaevna. 

Yes, LittleLulu, I have read memories of Olga of Wurttemberg. One of the forum members asked me about her memories in English. I tried to trace down her memories in English but I couldn`t find any. below you have the webaddress of her memories in Russian.Do you read Russian?

http://www.dugward.ru/library/olga_nick.html


Thank you very much, Violetta!  Sadly, my Russian is subpar, but with a little effort, I am able to translate.

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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2009, 07:02:34 AM »
I'm very interested and fascinated about Alexandra Nikolaevna. Does anyone have more information about her personality and her relationship with her family and her husband? Thanks!

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« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2009, 10:01:52 PM »
I'm very interested and fascinated about Alexandra Nikolaevna. Does anyone have more information about her personality and her relationship with her family and her husband? Thanks!

From what I've read, Alexandra was a sweet, mischievous child who grew into a radiant, lively, and kindhearded young woman who got along with just about everyone.  She was popular at court for both her beauty and her personality, and she was well-known for her talent as a singer--she was good enough to be taught by a famous soprano whose name I cannot recall.  She also founded either a hospital or a nurses' corps.  She was supposed to have been a favorite of her brother Constantine (whose wife Alexandra Iosifovna bore such a strong resemblance to Adini that Empress Alexandra Feodorovna cried upon meeting her).  Her brother Alexander II named his first daughter Alexandra in memory of his sister, and she died of infant meningitis at the age of seven.  Of course, Adini herself was the namesake of her father's sister, Alexandra Pavlovna, who also died young following complications in childbirth.  Olga of Wurttemberg believed that Nicholas I favored Adini (an earlier post said that he did not consider her to be especially pretty, but I have always heard the opposite, that he believed her the only one of his children to have inherited her mother's Prussian appearance).  and was truly devastated by her death--he commisioned a statue of her holding her baby son, but it was destroyed during the Nazi occupation.  At present, there is a replica bust based on the original statue and a memorial bench in her honor.

Landgrave Friedrich Wilhelm of Hesse-Kassel, known as Fritz, came to St. Petersburg as a potential husband for Nicholas I's second daughter Olga, , but evidently, he and Adini fell in love at first sight.  They had did not have much time together, as she contracted TB shortly before their wedding, but they seem to have been very close.  Adini was overjoyed with the prospect of motherhood, but she was so physically taxed by both the pregnancy and her illness that she was too sick to return to Hesse with her new husband.  She was essentially confined to bed for the duration of her pregnancy, and it saddened her that she was unable to pick flowers and go for walks with Fritz, as they had done during their engagement.  Her son, Wilhelm, was three months premature, and he only lived for about four hours.  Olga described him as Adini's "final joy," as she died later that same day.  Fritz was heartbroken, and some people believe that he never recovered.  He remarried around ten years later, to Adini's cousin, Princess Anna of Prussia, and they had several children together, but he was always rather distant toward her, presumably because he was unable to get over the loss of his much-loved first wife.

I hope that helps you a little...  



        
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Re: Grand Duchess Alexandra Nikolayevna
« Reply #44 on: July 17, 2009, 12:54:07 AM »
 Fritz was heartbroken, and some people believe that he never recovered.  He remarried around ten years later, to Adini's cousin, Princess Anna of Prussia, and they had several children together, but he was always rather distant toward her, presumably because he was unable to get over the loss of his much-loved first wife.

        

He was distant to his second wife as he was inclined to "fast-living" and company of so-called bohemian people - even Alexandra had admitted this fact before their marriage, but she was young and naive and thought she would correct his habits.

Also the dowry of Alexandra was so fabulous (and Nicholas I didn't order to take it back to Russia) that Friedrich, not being particularly rich before, became quite wealthy - his second wife enjoyed the jewellery collection of Alexandra.