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Offline AkshayChavan

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Romanov Fortunes and Annuities
« on: November 16, 2005, 01:41:52 PM »
Apart from the Tsar who was the richest man in russia, who was the richest member of the romanov family? Was it grand duke vladimir or some other grand duke?

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Re: Romanov Fortunes and Annuities
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2005, 03:55:04 PM »
I'm guessing Grand Duke Vladimir.

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Re: Romanov Fortunes and Annuities
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2005, 06:47:47 PM »
Grand Dukes Vladimir and Sergei.

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2005, 06:16:27 AM »
GD Konstantine "KR" had the biggest palace didn't he?
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2005, 11:03:58 AM »
Pavlovsk and Strelna were in possesion of Konstantinovichi,but I also think Grand Duke Vladimir was the richest...

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Re: Romanov Fortunes and Annuities
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2005, 05:03:20 PM »
I'd go with Vladimir too--he certainly lived as if he were the richest. Serge was apparently quite flush in the pocket as well as Ella apparently was drowning in jewels--not that any photos (apart from some very familiar ones in court dress) every seem to emerge.  :(
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2005, 04:08:43 AM »
All Grand Dukes were very rich. It's difficult to say who was the richest.If we speak about the sons and grandsons of the Emperors, not about the great-grandsons (such as children of GD KR).

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2005, 06:45:24 AM »
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(...) not about the great-grandsons (such as children of GD KR).


Were they "poor"? ;)

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2005, 07:22:02 AM »
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Were they "poor"? ;)


;D I can't imagine such like that!
In fact the fortunes of great-grandchildren of the Tzars were not so large as of the Grand Dukes. It seems I read in some book (Russian) the exact figures of their fortunes. I'll check up!

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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2005, 03:00:10 PM »
I don't know about you, but when it  when it comes to wealth & royal spending, I think Alexander III, as well as Nicholas & Alexandra were modest compared to their immense wealth & some of their ancestors, I'm assuming that either Peter the Great or Catherine the Great, were the most extravageant of Romanov rulers. From what I read, Prince Yussupov was one of the wealthiest men in Russia, is this true?

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Re: Romanov Fortunes and Annuities
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2005, 03:53:03 PM »
did grand dukes vladimir and sergie own businesses and investments like yusupovs and stroganovs , or their income was from land alone?

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2005, 05:26:57 PM »
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From what I read, Prince Yussupov was one of the wealthiest men in Russia, is this true?

Yes, he was.  Massie says, "...Prince Felix Yussoupov was the sole heir to the largest fortune in Russia...the size of the Yussoupov fortune was estimated fifty years ago at $350 million to $500 million.  What the same possessions would be worth today, no one can guess."

Of course, the Yussoupovs were not directly related to the Tsar, like GD Vladimir and Serge were.  
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2005, 05:40:26 PM »


The yusupov fortune was $500 Million $350 Million was the value of their land holdings.  :)

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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2005, 05:54:58 PM »


I cannot see it being Vladimir, He undoubtably had the largest income of the Grand Dukes but with the way he and his wife spent money, I cannot see them having accumulating much at all.  Probably Sergei.

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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2005, 05:59:08 PM »
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I don't know about you, but when it  when it comes to wealth & royal spending, I think Alexander III, as well as Nicholas & Alexandra were modest compared to their immense wealth & some of their ancestors, I'm assuming that either Peter the Great or Catherine the Great, were the most extravageant of Romanov rulers. From what I read, Prince Yussupov was one of the wealthiest men in Russia, is this true?


One must not forget that Empress Elisaveta, daughter of Peter the Great, was very free with her gold rubles when it came to jewelry, costumes and extravagant parties and balls. Catherine the Great spent likewise but had the added expense of her art collecting as well as tremendous gifts of gold, estates and serfs to her favourites. Peter the Great was a great spender but the money went to building the navy, building fortresses, building Saint Petersburg, equiping the army and other state infrastructure projects, rather than spending the wealth of the empire on himself.

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