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The make of a bayanet
« on: December 05, 2005, 10:47:20 PM »
In all of the books about Anna Anderson, it is stated that Anna Anderson had a scar on her right foot in the shape of a star. Experts who looked at the scar confirmed that it coincided exactly in size and shape to a Bolshevik bayanet. If you don't believe in Anna Anderson's claims, how do you wonder how she managed to get this scar? Who do you think stabbed her in the foot? I'm interested in hearing your theories.
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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2005, 11:14:59 AM »
That's a difficult question really, there are the follwoing possibilities:

1.) AA wsa AN and the bayonet scar was inflicted on the night of her attampted murder (widely discredited becasue of the DNA)

2.) The wound was self inflicted by FS to make her claim seem genuine

3.) FS travlled to Russia at some point and got involved in conflict thus the scar

4.) The wound was eiether non-existent or did not come from a bayonet, the information is wrong.

As for me I have no idea, right now I'm incrediblly confused by the whole issue so I try not to get involved with what I think any more, just what I know.

There are probably other possibilities that I've missed so feel free to add or criticise etc.!

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2005, 07:35:07 AM »
First, there is no proof of this scar. Second, we have no proof it came from that particular bayonet, a lot of things can make weird scars. Also, even if it was that bayonet, someone else could have found it somewhere. Finally, maybe it was Grossman who got ahold of it and tried to kill her with it! But no matter what, she still wasn't AN.

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2005, 10:58:59 AM »
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In all of the books about Anna Anderson, it is stated that Anna Anderson had a scar on her right foot in the shape of a star. Experts who looked at the scar confirmed that it coincided exactly in size and shape to a Bolshevik bayanet. If you don't believe in Anna Anderson's claims, how do you wonder how she managed to get this scar? Who do you think stabbed her in the foot? I'm interested in hearing your theories.


I have a vaguely star shaped scar...I won't say where( ::))...I don't think I'd been playing rough-and-tumble with any Bolshies...just a few lads when in school

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2005, 11:02:00 AM »
Does anyone know the whereabouts of the medical reports on Anna Anderson that cited all her various scars etc.? Are these what Peter Kurth used when mentioning such scars in his book on Anna Anderson?

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2005, 11:07:42 AM »
And e-gads....does anyone seriously think she would have only had "one" bayonet mark on her body?...These weren't Boy Scouts the IF was dealing with....She would have been riddled with wounds...not to mention having one's face smashed with a gun butt...Talk about your scars...

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2005, 11:37:15 AM »
Etonexile I'm just going to ask a question that's been bugging me for a while, why do you always type with the little dots? Is it force of habit?

To keep this on topic of course your right she would have more than just the one scar...

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2005, 11:38:39 AM »
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And e-gads....does anyone seriously think she would have only had "one" bayonet mark on her body?...These weren't Boy Scouts the IF was dealing with....She would have been riddled with wounds...not to mention having one's face smashed with a gun butt...Talk about your scars...


There are those who claim she had all those injuries, and the smashed face was allegedly why her looks chaged. But really she'd look like a messed up version of AN's face, not a different woman. Also, wow, some plastic surgery too,huh? Then there are some who try to claim FS was never hurt in the grenade factory so there must be 'another' explanation for her wounds, Bolshies?

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2005, 11:52:09 AM »
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Etonexile I'm just going to ask a question that's been bugging me for a while, why do you always type with the little dots? Is it force of habit?

To keep this on topic of course your right she would have more than just the one scar...

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Yes...little dots a bad habit from other forums.... ;)

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2005, 07:17:44 PM »
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First, there is no proof of this scar. Second, we have no proof it came from that particular bayonet, a lot of things can make weird scars. Also, even if it was that bayonet, someone else could have found it somewhere. Finally, maybe it was Grossman who got ahold of it and tried to kill her with it! But no matter what, she still wasn't AN.

So therefore the testimonies of witnesses and medical experts are to be ignored?

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2005, 07:19:52 PM »
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And e-gads....does anyone seriously think she would have only had "one" bayonet mark on her body?...These weren't Boy Scouts the IF was dealing with....She would have been riddled with wounds...not to mention having one's face smashed with a gun butt...Talk about your scars...

She had plainly been stabbed in many places, including the back of her head and in the arm. I just happen to mention only one in particular. Also, when she was in Dalldorf asulym x-rays showed her head had indeed been injured (perhaps by a rifle-butt?)

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2005, 07:32:56 PM »
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So therefore the testimonies of witnesses and medical experts are to be ignored?


The same way some people ignore the medical experts and four separate labs who did the DNA tests. ;)
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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2005, 08:00:19 PM »
The topic is "The make of a bayanet".  Go to DNA threads if that is what you wish to discuss, PLEASE.

I bet the people in the military section could answer your question as to the make of the Russian bayanet that would have inflicted that particular shape wound/scar.

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2005, 10:27:11 PM »
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So therefore the testimonies of witnesses and medical experts are to be ignored?



Just you choose to ignore the DNA evidence, which is a lot more reliable than any of the above...

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Re: The make of a bayanet
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2005, 09:10:37 AM »
Those who mention DNA seems confused as to the topic of this thread which is "The make of a bayanet".:-/

I honestly doubt that DNA would leave a scar which resembles a bayanet wound  ;D.

We would appreciate everyone's cooperation in remaining on topic.

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