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Offline Annie

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2005, 08:56:47 AM »
Watching them again they're worse than I thought. Funny, but not funny because their misinformation has really misled a lot of people about the true story. I have seen this on other boards I'm on, there is hardly no way to convince people that the cartoon is not what really happened. It's sad, really.

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2005, 09:03:57 AM »
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The more accurate "bad version:

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Nope, I have that! That's the one where Rasputin takes over and declares himself Tsar, it's awful! There is a lot of AA inspired stuff for those who are into that, don't want to drag that over here, but of course that didn't really happen so it's not accurate either, no such thing as Alexander Tchiakovsky. It was funny they used him though.

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2005, 01:55:47 PM »
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Nope, I have that! That's the one where Rasputin takes over and declares himself Tsar, it's awful! There is a lot of AA inspired stuff for those who are into that, don't want to drag that over here, but of course that didn't really happen so it's not accurate either, no such thing as Alexander Tchiakovsky. It was funny they used him though.



You guys don't understand, IT IS A CHILD'S video.  It's not a documentry or a docu-drama.  It's a way to take a horrible series of events and introduce them to children without emotionally scarring them.  If many had read what I posted earlier, I said that it is not entirely accurate, but as far as children's media goes, it's the closest your gonna get.  I watched a cartoon version of Joan of Arc with a bunch of kids I was babysitting and they were HORRIFIED when Joan is burned at the stake.  I watched both N&A and Anastasia the Mystery of Anna with two of my cousins and the youngest one had nightmares that night of the cellar scene.  It's just a watered down piece of history that children can enjoy.

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2005, 09:18:51 PM »
This is the problem: is you run a film for children, you must respect them showing them the truth, and not a fantasy random. Children must not be fooled only for they are just children. Children are not stupid; just children. Oh! I forgot! "The truth" doesn't mean boredom. A film may be accurate and not boring at the same time.

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2005, 11:01:21 PM »
No one said anything about the truth boring children, just perhaps frightening them.  And, hey, let's face it, kids like talking animals and fantasy, it's just a way to relieve some of the more serious aspects of the plot.  It is a cartoon that should not be taken seriously, I just admire the makers of it for their reserch into the actual history, for it is obvious that more research went into this production than any other cartoon version.  It does take liberties, which many of us who have studied the Romanovs may not approve of.  Oh well!

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2005, 08:52:36 AM »
This is my problem- if you want to make a CHILD's video where children will not have to deal with harsh realiites, then by all means make one, but make it FANTASY with FICTIONAL characters. It is WRONG and misleading to take actual historical events about REAL people and patch and color them up so kids won't have to see the bad things that happened. That only teaches them wrong about what really happened in history, and like I said, I have encountered MANY people who don't know the real story of the Tsar because they believe the Anastasia cartoon instead! So make fun stuff for kids, but make it fiction, not twisted fact.

I must also say this is ironic that things are being 'toned down' for kids, even facts. If you read the original Grimm's fairy tales, they were indeed 'grim'- other old legends and tales too. In the older times, when diseases and wars raged, kids were used to people, even their own siblings and friends, dying all the time. So they were not shocked by death and horror in fairy tales the way kids are now who have grown up in a different time. I was surprised to find out I had only read 'censored' versions of fairy tales, and was interested in reading the originals. But still, those are FAIRY TALES, they never were real to begin with, so changing them is not as bad as changing actual history!

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2005, 02:03:08 PM »
What started my interest in the IF was the CARTOON version of Anastasia made by the 20th century Fox company.  If it were not for that cartoon me and SEVERAL of my friends would not even know who Anasatsia was. I, personally am glad they introduced the story to children in this way; it sparked intereto meet these people who believed the cartoons west in a whole new generation.  

I must say, I would LOVE to meet the people who believed that the cartoon versions outline the whole truth!!!!!  Even at the age of 9, I knew %99 of the plot was fictional and that made me want to study the story even more... to find out who Rasputin was and how the family was killed.  All I can say is, the people who believed that Rasputin rose from the dead in order to kill the Romanovs and was accompanied by a comical talking bat NEEDS HELP!

Now, to repeat myself... the "bad cartoon version" is the more acurate of the cartoons and actually of the AA films.  I mean it is far more researched than the Ingrid Bergman film and actually gives Amy Irving's AA film a run for it's money in accuracy; it may not be as intertaing as these films and noticably more childish, but a poorly animated cartoon that can surpass award winning motion pictures in accuracy is alright with me.


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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2005, 09:49:32 PM »
You'd be surprised. The other day I was trying to explain the story of Rasputin in an educated way to people on another forum, and somebody said 'hey that sounds like that Anastasia story only you got it wrong.' Two guys went on to tell the story in the cartoon, and tell me I was wrong. I was floored. I still say, no matter what the reason, it is wrong to present actual people and actual events in a false way. There is enough real fiction and fantasy that we don't need to do that. Disney even changed the ending of Little Mermaid, but that was never real.

I think the Amy Irving movie stinks. I used to like it when it was new, but watching it again, it was boring! That Prince Eric guy took up so much time, and he never existed, not even as a real guy with a fake name, the character was totally invented. So much could have been done with that story, and they blew it.

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2005, 12:25:49 PM »
 ;D. annie please tell me how to get these movies

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2005, 02:15:48 PM »
Amy Irving's Anasatsia and the cartoons mentioned above  you can buy on line, the Ingrid Bergman version is easily found at many large movie stores or rental places.  

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2005, 01:39:49 AM »
I think that you've got to be a little kid or the worse student in History class (or never have really studied History), If you bite all that stuff that appears in the cartoon movie (Fox's one).
When I saw the movie I though It was nicely done, of course I was dissapointed by the unaccuracies, but I was glad that Anastasia's Myth was still alive with the production of the movie.
On the other hand I can forgive the unaccuracies in that movie and all cartoon movies (except the one that turns the IF in musical intruments  :P) It's in the movies made with real people that I hate to see this kind of mistakes, that's pathetic. I mean, If you're trying to make a movie with real people and based in real characters and that is focus to reach an adult audience, "C'mon Mr. Producer do some research!!...it's not so hard!!".
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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2005, 05:32:30 AM »
Well said Alex!

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2005, 08:56:46 PM »
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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2005, 10:18:23 PM »
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;D. annie please tell me how to get these movies


I got mine at WalMart and Best Buy.

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Re: very bad off brand Anastasia cartoons
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2005, 06:42:19 AM »
I actually would love to see some of those movies... mainly to see how Tatiana is depicted. :D
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