House of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen

I agree with Eric here...my vote goes to Maria Theresia...the hair,dress,ears,face similarity...

You have convinced me. :-)

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Lets talk about my favorite topic - MONEY!

I read somewhere that the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen were/are very very wealthy.  I read they had more wealth than the imperial ruling branch of the Family in Prussia.  I also ready somewhere that Missy's father-in-law was one of the wealthiest men in the world.

Can anyone comment on this?

TampaBay

Good grief!You have been reading quiet a lot lately haven't you?

Seems Antonia was in general "proud" of herself : )

Hi Svetabel!
Princess Antonia was more than just beautiful.

But yes, she was considered one of the great beauties of her time. What we call «beauty» (not to do with one's heart or soul) is a pattern of our own time. In the 1800's, a turned-up nose, for instance, was considered a symbol of a weak character. Such as a low chin (and look at Queen Victoria's and her strong will in spite of it!). That goes to prove beauty is indeed skindeep.
In the case of Princess Antonia, it wasn't just beauty, though. She had been the heart and joy of the family. Orphan of her mother at a very early age, Antonia didn't have to play a «motherly» role to her 5 brothers (like her sister Maia Anna). She was thus the family laughing element, always with a joke or a smile to everyone. She left Portugal very young. At 13 she was already sure she was going to marry Leopold of Hohenzollern. At 16 she was wedded and parted from her family.
As Princess of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen she was adored by her husband Leopold but ignored by his family who thought she was «too Portuguese» for their tastes: always too happy or too sad and, worse of all, not affraid of showing her own emotions. That was, bit by bit, «corrected» by her mother-in-law about whom she once had great expectations (Josephine of Baden was Queen Stephanie of Portugal's own beloved mother). Antonia grew sadder and more distant. She thought of returning to Portugal, which was, by the time's standards, quite a scandalous feeling. But she loved her husband very much. She always disagreed to see her son Ferdinand (named after her own father) succeed his uncle as King of Romania and she told him so, thus gaining her daughter-in-law's hate.
Antonia was always kind-hearted to the Portuguese who visited Sigmaringen and retired into a private house in later years, keeping herself from the eyes of the world. Specially after the death of her beloved brother King Luiz.
Princess Antonia's grandsons married their cousins, the daughters of Princess Maria Anna. Their heirs are, today, the closest relatives of the last kings of Portugal.

Here is Antonia as at 11:

This NY Times lists as the four richest Germans in 1914 as, not saying this article is true but this what it says:

1) Kaiser Wilhelm II
2) Grand Duke Adolf Friedrich of Mecklenburg-Strelitz (son of Augusta of Cambridge)
3) Frau Krupp
4) Prince Albert of Thurn und Taxis (son of Helene in Bavaria)

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9500E5DE1E39E633A25756C2A9679C946596D6CF

-Duke of NJ

Here is Antonia as at 11:

Sorry, that's not Antonia.The features are totally different, also the girl/woman is not 11 years old definitely.

As Princess of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen she was adored by her husband Leopold but ignored by his family who thought she was «too Portuguese» for their tastes: always too happy or too sad and, worse of all, not affraid of showing her own emotions. That was, bit by bit, «corrected» by her mother-in-law about whom she once had great expectations (Josephine of Baden was Queen Stephanie of Portugal's own beloved mother). Antonia grew sadder and more distant. She thought of returning to Portugal, which was, by the time's standards, quite a scandalous feeling.

Actually I've never read/heard that Atonia had wanted to get away to Portugal from the Hohenzollerns. Probably that was her feeling in the early years of the marriage when she was very young and unexperienced,not prepared for the role of wife.

Hi, It is for sure Antonia.
It is an officil portrait from the Ajuda Palace collection and it has been published a lot of times.
I do however agree she must be older than 11.

As Princess of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen she was adored by her husband Leopold but ignored by his family who thought she was «too Portuguese» for their tastes: always too happy or too sad and, worse of all, not affraid of showing her own emotions. That was, bit by bit, «corrected» by her mother-in-law about whom she once had great expectations (Josephine of Baden was Queen Stephanie of Portugal's own beloved mother). Antonia grew sadder and more distant. She thought of returning to Portugal, which was, by the time's standards, quite a scandalous feeling.

Actually I've never read/heard that Atonia had wanted to get away to Portugal from the Hohenzollerns. Probably that was her feeling in the early years of the marriage when she was very young and unexperienced,not prepared for the role of wife.

It was in her later life, actually, after she decided she didn't want more children and her sons all had lives of their own. Antonia's life and work was not documented until recently, when her letters were partially published. I think there are no English translations, so I wil try to gather some of her quotes soon. They show an intelligent and sensitive woman, very «affraid for the ways Germany is taking nowadays» (sic; written after her friend Emperor Fritz was succeded y his son William).

 I think there are no English translations, so I wil try to gather some of her quotes soon.

It would be very kind of you, as any new info is always welcomed here : )

Hi, It is for sure Antonia.
It is an officil portrait from the Ajuda Palace collection and it has been published a lot of times.
I do however agree she must be older than 11.

Don't you see yourself the difference in features? Especially nose and lips... I can say that even very highly-respected sources CAN make errors and mistakes. Sometimes people just believe in what is written in the caption of the picture - but that's not true for sure sometimes. I don't believe that Antonia - 11 or not 11 years old - that's not her.

I agree with Svetabel, that woman doesn´t look like Antonia at all.
I´ve seen that picture before in www.royaltyguide.nl and thought it was misidentified.
The features are different.

I agree with Svetabel, that woman doesn´t look like Antonia at all.
I´ve seen that picture before in www.royaltyguide.nl and thought it was misidentified.
The features are different.

Well, than I guess you would have to correct all the books written about Princess Antonia. There is another photo from the same session where she is dressed in her riding outfit. I'll try to scan it when I find it. Also, I'll try to find the drawing of her with one of her brothers made at about the same time.