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Impérial Mistresses
« on: December 13, 2005, 11:46:32 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2005, 03:26:11 AM »
Marie, Countess Walewska is said to be the only woman who actually loved Napoleon.  Napoleon met her in Warsaw 1807 and was enchanted by her.  She was married by then but slept with Napoleon anyways because the Poles felt that could save their country.  Later, Marie did fall in love with him and had a son with him called Alexandre who would later become a diplomat in the 2nd Empire.  He was very smart but not a very fun person.  

Marie was the only women who remained loyal to Napoleon after he lost his throne.  She even visited him when he was in Elba and volunteered to stay with him.  He refused because at that time, he was still hoping he could bring Marie Louise to Elba.  Marie was greatly hurt and returned to Paris.  She remarried in 1816 to a distant cousin, Count Philippe Antoine d'Ornano and died in labor in 1817.  Napoleon was not very happy when she remarried and believed she betrayed him.  
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2005, 04:34:20 AM »
wasn't he a fun person? you can't be with me but you can't be with anyone else either :P

are there any living descendants of alexander walewski?
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2005, 06:40:13 AM »
I read that he lacked any kind of humor.  

He married three times and had 7 children (not sure if all had grown up).
 
1. Catharine Caroline Montagu
  Louise Marie Colonna-Walewska
  George Eduard Auguste Colonna-Walewski

2. Maria Anna di Ricci
   Isabelle Colonna-Walewski
   Charles Walewski
   Elise Colonna-Walewski
   Eugenie Colonna-Walewski

3. Rachel Felix
   Alexandre Antoine Colonna-Walewski

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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2005, 12:18:35 PM »
Maria Anna di Ricci(wife of Alexander Walewski)  was a mistress of Napoleon III.
Maybe...1858~1861
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2005, 04:04:43 PM »
i'm suddenly very interested in alexander walewski. did he prove any simmilarities to his father? did he want to? i only know he was france's minister of foreign affairs...?
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2005, 11:59:40 PM »
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i'm suddenly very interested in alexander walewski. did he prove any simmilarities to his father? did he want to? i only know he was france's minister of foreign affairs...?


I read this book, 'Eugenie the emress and her empire'

'....The Comtesse's vain, venal husband was Napoleon I's son by his Polish mistress, and he looked a bit like his father, which was where the resemblance ended.
A former ambassador to London-Queen Victoria could not stand him-he had recently appointed foreign secretary, although Napoleon III did not think too highly of his abilities.....'

Here a Photo. Alexander Walewski and his wife Maria Anna(Napoleon III's mistress)

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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2005, 12:10:36 AM »
He knew about his real paternity and I believe he was proud of his father's greatness.  He too was a very capable government official as well.  

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2005, 06:08:12 AM »
maybe he wasn't a great military commander, but i believe he proved himself quite capable in foreign affairs
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2005, 09:51:19 AM »
The great love of Napoleon’s life was Josephine.  Unfortunately, Josephine was unfaithful to him.  Letters from his family detailing Josephine’s infidelities and the massive debts she had racked up in his absence arrived while he was on his Egyptian campaign.  In a spirit of revenge, Napoleon took his first mistress, Pauline Foures, a young Frenchwoman who had followed her soldier husband into Egypt.  Their affair was very open; Pauline was nicknamed “Napoleon's Cleopatra” by the troops.

Once Napoleon returned to Paris, he told Josephine that he was going to divorce her.  In floods of tears, she begged his forgiveness.  He still loved his wife, despite her extravagance and infidelities.  He reconciled with Josephine, who never dared cheat on him again.  Unfortunately, he cheated on her with the actress Mademoiselle Georges and others, to Josephine’s dismay.  His mistresses meant nothing to him, as he once explained: "power is my mistress".

Napoleon believed that it was his fault that he and Josephine never had children, a belief that was fostered by Josephine and by his siblings, who hoped that he would adopt one of their children as his heir.  When one of his mistresses, Eleonore Denuelle, became pregnant, his sister Caroline convinced him that her own husband was the father of the baby.  It was not until Marie Walewska became pregnant that Napoleon realized he could father a child.  

He still resisted divorcing Josephine, and planned to make the eldest son of her daughter Hortense and his brother Louis his heir, but the child died.  Hortense, a chip off the old block, was unfaithful to Louis within a few years of their arranged marriage.  Napoleon probably had serious doubts that her other children were fathered by Louis, including the future Napoleon III.  Napoleon decided that he needed a child of his own, and reluctantly divorced Josephine.

He married the Archduchess Marie Louise, a great-niece of Marie-Antoinette.  Their marriage was a happy one so long as he was in power, though Marie Louise was not the social success that Josephine had been, due to her shyness and haughtiness.  Their son was born the year after they were married.  Napoleon secretly arranged for Josephine to meet the child.  

After Napoleon was defeated, Marie Louise returned to her father, taking their son with her.  Marie Louise took up with Adam von Neipperg, whom she later married, moving to Parma and abandoning her son by Napoleon.  Marie Louise’s desertion and subsequent infidelity hurt Napoleon, but what devastated him was the treatment meted out to his son, and his separation from him.  

Josephine died of pneumonia during Napoleon’s first exile; when he learned of her death he shut himself away for days and refused to see anyone.  During his hundred day return to France, he paid a visit to their country estate, Malmaison, and spent hours alone in the room where she died.  No other woman came close to replacing the hold she’d kept on his heart.  Years later, as Napoleon lay dying, he was semi-conscious, and seemed to believe that he was giving commands to his army.  His last words were, “and at the head of the army, Josephine….”  He never stopped loving her.  

I don’t think Napoleon should be written off as just a good general.  He overhauled the French legal system, creating a standardized code of laws that applied to everyone equally, the Code Napoleon.  He made certain that promotion in the army and in the civil service was based on ability, not the possession of a noble title.  Napoleon encouraged the founding of the Bank of France, improved roads, and built schools and museums.  His wars were certainly ruinous for France in the long term, but he did not leave the country in the bankrupt state that the Bourbons did, choosing to consolidate the country’s debt and balance the budget instead.  Although he took mistresses, he was by no means as promiscuous as some of the Bourbon rulers of old.  His infidelities were private affairs; he did not flaunt his mistresses or give them any political power.

The official website for Malmaison, the museum dedicated to Napoleon and Josephine:

http://www.chateau-malmaison.fr/
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2005, 04:17:22 AM »
Mademoiselle George, actress at the Comédie Française:
née Marguerite-Joseph Weimer (1787-1867)

French bio: http://www.napoleon.org/fr/salle_lecture/articles/files/napoleontheatre_hicksfevrier2003.asp
http://www.theatre-odeon.fr/public/document/biograph/george.htm

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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2005, 04:33:05 AM »
GRASSINI, Giuseppina, (1773-1850), Opera singer:

French bio: http://www.napoleon.org/fr/salle_lecture/biographies/files/grassini.asp

by Elisabeth VIGEE-LEBRUN:
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2007, 05:49:00 AM »
Napoleon was a great military commander...and a dreadful pig as a human being from what we know...He was far out-shone by the women in his life....only to die from arsenic poisoning by his entourage...if we are to belief some Swedish dentists............

The poisoning theory is/was already discussed quite detailled on the thread on Napoleon himself, and indeed it is highly unlikely after the recent examinations. It´s true that Ben Weider has written a book, where he explains the theory that Napoleon might have died of arsenic poisoing by enemies, but even at the beginning- years ago- there were doubts about that story. Whatever one might think it is not proved that Napoleon died of any arsenic  poisoning. Especially recent examinations rather show the contrary, Napoleon had problems with his stomache over many years- because of the well known Helicobacter (there are many people even today having it), and he developed an ulcer, which itself became cancer in the end (please do look to the Napoleon thread for further details!)
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