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Offline REMI

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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2008, 09:40:49 AM »
Of course! I was only saying that McFerran know the Wittelsbach very well

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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2008, 12:43:57 AM »

Gundelinde, Wiltrud, Adelgunde, Hildegarde, Helmtrud??

Wiltrud is at right, behind Prince Franz.

Sorry, Svetabel ... According to Noėl S.Mac Ferran, a specialist (www.jacobite.ca) you can find, from left to right:Gundelinde, Hildegarde, Aldegunde, Karl, Wiltrud, Helmtrud and Franz.

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I know that site. With the all respect to the specialist I can't agree Helmtrud is behind Franz. I still think that's Wiltrud.

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« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2008, 03:20:54 AM »
Thanks, Svetabel...Helmtrud and Wiltrud are as like as twins indeed. I have just compared the photo of Wiltrud alone to the photo of group. I must say you are certainly right: it is Wiltrud. No doubt.

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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2008, 03:40:50 AM »


Hildegarde, Helmtrud, Gundelinde and Wiltrud.    (Agreed? There is a more difficult one to come.)

Hildegarde, Wiltrud,  their mother, Gundelinde and Helmtrud.
Is it right , Svetabel?

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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2008, 05:00:22 AM »
Yes, you are right, Remi. : )

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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2008, 04:24:07 AM »
Princess Maria and her family; she married the Duke of Calabria to become the titular Queen of the Two Sicilies (that has a good ring, a shame that the Bourbons had made such a mess of ruling their Sicilies when they had been in power):


Her daughters:



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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2008, 09:59:09 AM »
I“ve read that Ferdinand of Calabria and his wife Maria of Bavaria were quite happy, but they had a very difficult financial situation...Archduchess Elisabeth Franziska of Austria guaranteed an annual income to the couple and after Elisabeth Franziska“s death, her younger daughter, queen Maria Cristina of Spain, stated she would pay the same amount of money every year...

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« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2009, 05:17:45 PM »
I've read that Ferdinand of Calabria and his wife Maria of Bavaria were quite happy, but they had a very difficult financial situation...Archduchess Elisabeth Franziska of Austria guaranteed an annual income to the couple and after Elisabeth Franziska“s death, her younger daughter, queen Maria Cristina of Spain, stated she would pay the same amount of money every year...

Do you know why it was Elisabeth Franziska who gave them an allowance instead of Ludwig/Maria Theresia? Was it out of love for her granddaughter of because Ludwig and Maria Theresia could not/would not?  I thought Maria Theresia was very wealthy due to her her part of the inheritance of her uncle Francis of Austria-Este, Duke of Modena.  I thought even though Franz Ferdinand received a good portion and the title Archduke of Austria-Este that Maria Theresia received a good amount of lands too?

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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2009, 09:11:36 AM »
Another picture of Maria, Duchess of Calabria:




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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2009, 01:38:44 PM »
hi ! what a gigantic family !
I read that Prince Wolfgang died young (15). Someone knows about this prince ?
Why has he died so young? what were his interests? what were his parent's plans his future?

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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2009, 07:48:29 AM »
Another picture of Maria with the Duke of Calabria, the nicest I have come across:


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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2009, 04:34:04 AM »

Princess Hildegard


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Re: Ludwig III's daughters-Bavaria
« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2015, 09:32:19 AM »
Does anyone know how Ruggerio Maria, son of Ferdinand Pius and Maria Ludwiga, died? He was only 13, and his death prompted a family schism.