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A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« on: January 01, 2006, 05:24:19 PM »
I have a question regarding the Alexander Park and am hoping that someone out there might know the answer.

On my last visit to St Petersburg (approx 6 years ago) I managed to get completely lost in the Alexander Park and found myself at a fenced enclosure. The fence was quite high ( maybe 2 metres) and the inside was completely overgrown with the plant growth nearly as high as the fence. I also saw some of the old lights inside located at regular intervals near the fence. I walked round but could not find an entrance and was eventually forced by a severe mosquito attack to retreat. The enclosure was roughly the size of a tennis court, and the fencing and lights were quite old.

Has anybody any idea where exactly I was and what I found?

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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2006, 05:28:20 AM »
I know the Alexander Park well, but cannot identify the fenced off area you describe.  

I wonder if this has more to do with the military occupation of the Alexander Palace and does not date from Romanov occupation.

It does not sound like the tennis court which was sited at the Feodorovsky Gorodok.

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Regarding The Alexander Park Bridges
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2006, 02:18:38 PM »
I am confused about the bridges in the Alexander Park, specifically the one where Nicholas is sitting with guards behind him, and then some of the children are photographed with the guards, etc.  I've seen some pics on here that look like the same bridge, but if you count the number of ironwork arches and swirls, it can't be the "exact" spot.  Maybe same bridge, but different side?  I would like a closeup picture of the exact spot on the bridge where the IF was sitting.  I'd like to compare also if any of the same trees exist...or same cracks in the masonry work, etc.  And where exactly too is this bridge, is it just down in front of the semi-circular exterior?   Thanks

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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2006, 05:06:13 PM »
A strange thing happened to me when I began exploring the Alexander and Catherine Parks back in September, 2006.  I entered the park area by the little gate nearest the entry to the Ekaterina Hotel;  after a short distance, I saw the Chinese Village to my right and turned down a walkway toward it.  Next, following my map ( or so I thought ), I proceeded down a sidewalk into an area that I concluded was the "greenhouse" area.  Not very interesting, no signs, and eventually I reached a fence: dead end. Nearby, on the other side of the fence I saw a ruined Gothic brick structure that I thought would make a nice picture.
Before I knew it, a pleasant, rather official looking woman made it clear that I wasn't supposed to be there.  A couple of garden workers ( women ) came over to check things out, and soon a more official and unfriendly-looking young woman wearing a jacket with T.S. on the back also checked in at the site of my crime. As I was led away from this area, the two women gardeners kindly gifted me with 2 apples from the orchard. To make the story a little shorter, I'll just say that perhaps I stumbled into a "prohibited" area and was being diverted by Tsarkoe's version of the "KGB" from an area where GMO's are being experimented upon (LOL)!  No, I'm not being serious.
By the time I was escorted to the main gate of the Catherine Palace, an English-speaking guard and 2 policewomen were
laughing hysterically at the spy (me) being brought to them for inspection. My escort was still being quite stern.
Anyhow--it was an interesting occurrence and the guard, especially, was very nice. I was given the OK to go back into the parks, but never understood what I had done wrong!
Any ideas?

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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2006, 04:28:48 AM »
Pippilin - what an alarming experience.   By your description of where you were, I would say the 'Gothic' building you saw was the Chapelle.   I don't think you stumbled upon anything secret.   What I think is that the Chapelle is, in places, quite unsafe and that you were removed for your own protection.   The attitude, I admit, was not pleasant, but these were mini-officials being very official.

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Bridge in the Alex Park
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2006, 06:41:49 PM »
Pippilin,  Did you get any pictures of the Alexander Park?  I am very interested in the bridge where the IF was photographed as prisoners.  I understand that there are two bridges just alike that run parallel to each other.  I'd like to see a close up of the bridge as long as it is the exact same spot where the family sat.  Anybody got a picture?

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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2006, 09:40:06 AM »
Hi I know exactly what you are loking for and I did exactly the same thing on my trip to Tsarskoe - if you go to my photobucket you can look at the photos I took of the brides.

www.photobucket.com

my username is       Petrushka3
password is            nigeljemson

 there's one on page 4, one on page 5, three on page 6, 

I think you'd need to take the original pics of the IF there and look at the bridges with the info at hand, as even these seemingly unchanged constructions are actually quite hard to place when you are relying on photos.

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Alexander Park Bridges
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2006, 11:51:14 AM »
Thanks Pet!   I'm enjoying your photo's!

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Park Bridges
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2007, 01:50:04 PM »
Does anybody have any photos up close of the two bridges in the Alexander Park?  I'm confused when I look at some pics,
there seems to be a big hill
behind Alexsey in one, and then in other
pics the background looks different.  I really want to compare the bridge where the captivity
 photos were taken with a good current photo of the bridge.  Also, were there parallel paths
down from the semi-circular balcony to these bridges?  If there were, are they overgrown now? 

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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2007, 02:13:00 PM »
Me again with another question.  Is there some kind of statue along the view from the semi-circular balcony?  Somewhere, I thought I saw what looked like an oblesik(sp)?  or column shaped thing.  I wish I had an aerial view of the palace that showed that side of the palace.  Anybody got a pic or ?

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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2007, 02:37:50 PM »
Обелиск есть прямо перед южным входом дворца.
Раньше он назывался Жертвам февральской революции.
Непостежимым образом в Советское время он превратился
Жертвам революции.

Бенуа в воспоминаниях говорит что был проект его установить
во дворе Екатерининского дворца. Его установка под окнами
Александровского дворца была не случайна. Семья Императора
была ещё в Царском Селе.

Данный обелиск был восстановлен после 1944 года.

The obelisk is directly before a southern input of a palace.
Earlier it referred to to Victims of February revolution.
In the strange image it has turned to Soviet time
To victims of revolution.

Benua in memoirs speaks that there was a project it to establish
In court yard Katerina of a palace. Its installation under windows
Aleksandrovskogo a palace was not casually. Family of Emperor
Was in Tsarskoe Selo.

The given obelisk has been restored after 1944.

http://geglov2.narod.ru/Foto/Aleks_p/Aleks_p_f_003_c.htm

http://geglov2.narod.ru/jpg/Aleks_Reg_Park/Pam_Rev/P1010742.jpg



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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2007, 07:52:15 AM »
Petruchka,

You post are marvellous!Thanks!




Does anyone knows if more attention would be bring to the park in connection with the restoration of the Alexander palace facade?

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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2007, 08:22:25 PM »
I'm not sure if this question belongs here, but can anyone tell me how to locate the Alexander Palace on "Google Earth"? I have tried to locate these extraordinary places and palaces on the search engine, but the Alexander palace is one I can't find?!? I do see the "Egyptian Gates" though. Is the palace near this? I can also locate the Catherine Palace. Please anyone help!

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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2007, 11:56:49 PM »
Find the Catherine Palace.... locate the back of the palace not the garden facade... its the area that is surround by buildings and opens to the main gate of the palace... move up and over to teh left and u can see teh fuzzy yellow outline of the palace between the Catherine Palace and the Farm next to thelake... tehlast time i looked at google u can t get a clear image but u can make it out

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Re: A Question Regarding The Alexander Park
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2007, 04:31:13 PM »
IS PROBLY THE PLACE WHERE THEY WRE KEPT PRISONERS