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Re: The Standart
« Reply #165 on: June 24, 2013, 05:37:01 PM »
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Re: The Standart
« Reply #166 on: June 25, 2013, 07:25:21 PM »
Can anyone post the cyrilic spellings of Standart and Polar Star? I know reading the sailors' hats is helpful in identifying which yacht a photo was taken on. I wasn't sure what Google Translate was telling me was accurate enough or not...
Also, did Alexei "switch" hats if he went on his grandmother's yacht?
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Re: The Standart
« Reply #167 on: June 25, 2013, 08:25:27 PM »
Standart = Штандартъ in pre-revolutionary spelling.

(I don't know why we spell/pronounce it "Standart" in English. In Russian it's "Shtandart.")


I believe Polar Star = Полярная звезда
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Re: The Standart
« Reply #168 on: July 01, 2013, 02:59:57 PM »
  11-4-18.    Is that the date of the printing or publication of the photo? In some German source?  If it's 1918, it's post-Russian Revolution, or rather, post-Nicholas II's reign.  Just wondering.

The date is the date the photograph was taken - the text is in Swedish (Emperor's Yacht Standard) and the photo is taken the day Standart (at that time renamed 18 Marta) left the Finnish capital Helsinki as the Germans had captured the city. All Russians had to escape and the ex-Standart was with the third convoy to leave the city, hence this explains the civilians aboard a navy vessel. Although the picture is indeed impressive, note that the crowns worn by the eagles have been severely damaged most likely as a result of the revolution.

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #169 on: July 01, 2013, 05:22:35 PM »
  11-4-18.    Is that the date of the printing or publication of the photo? In some German source?  If it's 1918, it's post-Russian Revolution, or rather, post-Nicholas II's reign.  Just wondering.

The date is the date the photograph was taken - the text is in Swedish (Emperor's Yacht Standard) and the photo is taken the day Standart (at that time renamed 18 Marta) left the Finnish capital Helsinki as the Germans had captured the city. All Russians had to escape and the ex-Standart was with the third convoy to leave the city, hence this explains the civilians aboard a navy vessel. Although the picture is indeed impressive, note that the crowns worn by the eagles have been severely damaged most likely as a result of the revolution.

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Well, thanks for the input, Arabelle, very informative , and you're quite perceptive to note the condition of ther crowns on the eagles on the bow. Little likelihood that the crowns would not have taken a beating,post-revoluition. More generally, obviously the Standart would not have been so carefully maintained under revolutionary care. Nice to know it performed a useful service evacuating Russians . 
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Re: The Standart
« Reply #170 on: July 15, 2013, 10:55:46 PM »
for any who want to find more information on the yacht can go to this website it is a great source for information on the royal yacht



http://www.yachtstandart.com/standart-mainframe.htm
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Re: The Standart
« Reply #171 on: August 24, 2013, 03:15:01 PM »
or here: http://yachtstandart.blogspot.com

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Re: The Standart
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Re: The Standart
« Reply #173 on: September 12, 2013, 12:49:14 AM »
whenever  I look at this model I feel as if I'm looking at the ship itself .

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #174 on: September 22, 2013, 07:00:19 PM »
If the 11-418 date of the photo is right them the Standart most likely took part in was is called the ice cruise or ice march which lasted from 12 March ro 11 April 1918. This is where the Baltic fleet was evacuated from Helsinki to Petrograd. There is a little about it online if you look up the Baltic Fleet. There is more about it in the book "The Russian Revolution and the Baltic Fleet". The officer who led it was later shot by the Bolos.