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Re: The Standart
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2005, 11:42:27 AM »
 Stateroom onboard Standart

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2005, 04:05:09 AM »
They occasionally visited other yachts,like this one :-/
http://www.seegerpress-online.de/seegerpress-cgi/topixx?op=preview&ID=1077253518&str...
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Re: The Standart
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2005, 03:06:26 PM »
Lucien:

The yacht you show above is the German Imperial yacht Hohenzollern.

The German Kaiser was very jealous of the Russian yacht Standart because it was larger than his smaller Hohenzollern.

He had the nerve to suggest that the Tsar 'give' him the yacht Standart as a present.

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2005, 10:08:32 PM »
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Empress's Stateroom onboard Standart


Hi Douglas,

I remember this photograph from Harald's posts where he identified it as Empress Marie's bedroom. I am curious if her suite of rooms on the Standart were maintained specifically for her through the two decades late 1890s-1910s whereas she was very rarely on this yacht or was this suite of rooms given to relatives/guests when sailing with the Imperial family.

Another question that I am confused on is the photograph in Anna Vyrubova's albums at Yale that has been identified as Alexandra's bedroom on the Standart:

http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/RMNV_SearchExec.asp

Compared to Empress Marie's bedroom which has a luxurious ambience, this photo shows a very small bed and rather plain corner of the room. And would Nicholas and Alexandra not have shared a bedroom with two beds pushed together as in the AP and Livadia as I do not believe they would spend weeks apart during the Standart cruises. I am curious if it was misidentified and possibly could be the bedroom that Anna herself occupied. What do you think?

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2005, 12:44:53 AM »
Dear Joanna,

This is the bedroom belonging to one of Empress Marie's suites on the Standart. They were located on port side on the main deck. The suites for Nicholas and Alexandra were located on the same deck on starboard. Remember that "my" pictures were taken in 1896 when Standart was delivered to the Imperial Navy and hence give an impression of the ship as how she looked initially. Obviously Nicholas and Alexandra made a lot of changes, alterations and modifications to Standart to:
  • suit their own taste
  • accomodate their expanding family
  • keep Standart technically advanced and up-to-date

The suites for Empress Marie were, approximately 1912, refurbished to accomodate the four Grand Duchesses, as to provide each of them an own cabin. Alexei had his own suites from birth onwards.

No non-member of the Imperial Family would be accomodated in the Imperial Suites. Guest rooms, rooms for staff and officers were located on the main deck before the engine room. The Imperial Suites were located behind the engine room.

Dear Joanna,

I could not open the link to Beinecke and hence can not help to identify the picture; Alexandra's suites were however quite quickly redecorated in her "own" style (chintz in her favourite colours, etc.).

Nicholas and Alexandra did officially NOT share the same bedroom on board the Standart; their set of private suites had separate beds. Their suites were however adjacent to each other and had connecting doors .......

Dear Douglas,

I consider it less elegant that you replace a picture that I removed from the board; when quoting please quote correctly.

Dear All,

I have been watching over your shoulders over the last year and still consider this forum to be an exceptional opportunity to exchange our knowledge on all aspects of Imperial Russia.

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2005, 02:14:02 PM »
Then why did you leave us Harald....and why did you take your posts and photographs with you?

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2005, 02:40:39 PM »
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I could not open the link to Beinecke and hence can not help to identify the picture;


Dear Harald

My apologies. The link to the Yale Albums:

http://beinecke.library.yale.edu/dl_crosscollex/romanov_album.htm

Clique on Album 2 then go to page 23. It would be interesting to know if this photo has been misidentified.

Joanna

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2005, 09:58:20 AM »
Dear Joanna,

The photo is clearly taken on board the Standart as I recognize the bedlight / push bell unit beside the bed. I doubt however whether this is one of Alexandra's suites. I have seen other photo's taken inside her suites (not her bedroom) and they very clearly "carry" her signature - Faberge photo frames and other objects d'art, loads of handmade pillows and cushions, flowers and plants, etc..

This bedroom lacks this personal signature and I therefore belief it's Anna Vyroubova's cabin on board the Standart. Anna's cabin was situated on the deck below the main deck (The Imperial Family's suites where located on the main deck) just under Alexandra's suites. A staircase connected Alexandra's suites with the cabins to her staff.

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2005, 12:39:49 PM »
Dear H A R A L D:

Great to see you back on this site.

I just noticed your return this morning.  

My best to you this Holiday Season.

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2006, 06:20:24 AM »
I started research about "Standart".  I lve in Estonia and I have some hints, that  some parts of this ship is still existing :)

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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2006, 09:35:42 AM »
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I started research about "Standart".  I lve in Estonia and I have some hints, that  some parts of this ship is still existing :)


It could be that some of the Imperial Navy was salvaged in either Paldiski or in Tallinn. Some ten years ago I remember a large number of heavy high grade copper pots and pans for sale in the cellar of a little shop where Viru Street meets the town square. Each of these pieces was stamped with the Imperial Eagle, the words 'Baltiski Flot' and the name of the ship from whence they came.

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2006, 08:30:08 AM »
Standart is at the moment in Paldiski and Polar star is in Ria laht (sea)

Both are under watter

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Re: The Standart
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2006, 04:44:33 AM »
Dear Forum Members,

As some of you might be aware I am continuously searching for information on the Standart. It is with extremely great satisfaction that I have come accross a source that will provide an enormous amount of extremely reliable information, photographs and very rare objects related to the Standart.

Besides that I have come in very close contact with on of the European Royal Archives that, surprisingly, holds in the Private Archive to their Sovereign, a lot of information and photographs on the Standart. It is expected that shortly after the summer HM will allow me to review the available information.

Some of you might possibly not understand my obsession for this yacht but each new discovery makes me even more determined to continue the search.

If the possibility exists I will obviously share the information with all of you.

Harald




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Re: The Standart
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2006, 08:18:39 AM »
I'm so excited at the prospect -- particularly if you can share interior photos! Please keep us informed, Harald!
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Re: The Standart
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2006, 07:07:52 PM »
It would be kind of nice if there were life-sized replicas of the Imperial yachts, if not then just the Standart.  It is a shame what had happened to the actual ships :'(