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Offline HSH The Duchess of Bourbon

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Re: Movies about the French Court
« Reply #360 on: November 16, 2009, 02:07:01 PM »
In short, the 2005 MA film is amaazing, whereas Man in the Iron Mask is awful LOL..
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Re: Movies about the French Court
« Reply #361 on: September 27, 2010, 04:36:48 PM »
The more I watch this film, the more I think it is a brilliant, modern retake on the young Marie Antoinette. Where it fails is in the last third of the film, since the very young director Sophia Coppola did not have the courage (or perhaps the maturity) to depict Marie Antoinette as a grown-up, middle-aged queen, the true wife of Louis XVI and mother of their four children and eventually, of course, after the execution of her husband, the Widow Capet, as the revolutionaries so cruelly termed her.

But as a mood piece, as a tone piece, as an impressionistic piece about the young Marie Antoinette, it wins my respect. Also, I have to stand in its defense because I think it is an essentially very feminine film (in the same way that Coppola's father's film The Godfather is an essentially very masculine film). It manages to capture the beauty, grace and spirit of teenage girls. I liked it for that. I thought it was a good Bildungsroman for young girls, a "growing up" novel or movie, because it initiates them into the many disillusionments and pitfalls of adulthood, so many of them sexual and related to men and the power that men wield. The film is also simply a great pleasure to view  - the scenes at Versailles and Le Petit Trianon are extraordinary, the scenery, the costumes, the hair, etc. There weren't as many historical inaccuracies as people are making out here (the few that there were mostly have to do with aristocrats addressing the king or queen before they are addressed by him/her first). In fact, Coppola obviously did an impressive amount of research. Antonia Fraser herself praised the results.

As for Kirsten Dunst, she often looks like Marie Antoinette, she has a similar profile (watch the very last scene again) and overall the same Germanic coloring (blonde, pale, blue-eyed) and build (slight). She certainly manages to embody MA's grace and is a far better incarnation of the tragic queen than poor dowdy Norma Shearer. I also have to say that Coppola completely won me over when she said that she was thinking of Adam Ant when it came time to costuming the character of the Queen's lover, Axel von Fersen. In the same way, the entire scene at the Paris Opera is absolutely spot-on... I can't think of any better soundtrack. Even my mother (born in 1939, hardly an Adam Ant or Siouxsie and the Banshees fan) thought it was very affecting. And beautifully shot. So there! New Romantics rave on!
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Re: Movies about the French Court
« Reply #362 on: September 27, 2010, 09:42:53 PM »

Aloha from Kaua'i!

I agree that the film's script left something to be desired - but the locations and costumes - ooh, la, la, la!!!   

Not to mention the unforgettable scene with the Manolo Blahnik shoes and the tons of pastries by Lauduree - unforgettable and luscious!

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Re: Movies about the French Court
« Reply #363 on: September 27, 2010, 09:57:12 PM »

Aloha from Kaua'i!

I agree that the film's script left something to be desired - but the locations and costumes - ooh, la, la, la!!!   

Not to mention the unforgettable scene with the Manolo Blahnik shoes and the tons of pastries by Lauduree - unforgettable and luscious!



Maybe you're kind of missing my point though, which is that MA escaped the misery of her marriage in its first decade or so through shopping, gambling, partying, and other mindless pleasures. I thought Coppola made this pretty clear in the movie, it's not pure escapism, there was payback in the end (for the most part unjustified, but still payback - "let them eat cake" and other such words and actions subsequently wrongly ascribed to MA).
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Re: Movies about the French Court (and revolution period)
« Reply #364 on: October 10, 2011, 01:54:48 AM »
Thanks, Prince, for starting this section on French Royalty -- those glorious competitors in excess with the Romanovs.

Now, to the real business, what about the movies?

Any opinions on Ridicule?  On Norma Shearer as Marie Antoinette?  On La Nuit de Varennes?  On the various versions of the Musketeers' sagas?  On others?

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These are beautiful movies about court of Versailles, i really suggest them!

http://youtu.be/aGrZGFYZG18

http://youtu.be/uZUEpxGR8-w

http://youtu.be/8sIxvF9yIJU

http://youtu.be/hgB4UcYz6G0

http://youtu.be/i0-kLUDqWTU

http://youtu.be/b9FdejEfegM

http://youtu.be/KyOW0v9buQk

http://youtu.be/QWZ6i7X-8HQ

http://youtu.be/CZQL1SheACI

http://youtu.be/ajyByPzn-Mc

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Re: Movies about the French Court
« Reply #365 on: November 29, 2011, 09:51:32 AM »
   I currently watch The Rose of Versailles...an anime about the French Court during the life of Marie Antoinette. But the story focus most on Oscar François de Jarjayes, a women who was rise as a man and serves as commander of the Royal Guards.
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Re: Movies about the French Court
« Reply #366 on: January 20, 2012, 02:21:13 AM »
"La Révolution Française," the most historically accurate 2 part 6 hour long French film made in 1989 about the French revolution, in French in full on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taRBxR-fxq0

Its longer for tv version in English has a few delicious extra scenes that were cut in the big screen version, which you can enjoy. It is also available in full on You Tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yomegiBBrzw
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