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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #60 on: April 05, 2009, 11:36:20 AM »
I didn't know that Marguerite was Czartoryski's second wife. Now I had a look into at some genealogical sites and have some questions:

1. I read that Maria Cristina of Spain married in December 1833, shortly after Ferdinando VII.'s death, an ex-sergeant of the royal guard, Augustín Fernández Muñoz, Duke of Riansares - secretly. But they had at least seven children... How did they manage to keep their marriage a secret?

According to what I've read, they tried to keep their marriage a secret, but it was very difficult since the Queen was frequently pregnant. As soon as their children were born, they were quickly sent away to be raised far from the court.

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #61 on: April 05, 2009, 09:39:00 PM »
GREAT pic MC.

this is either a terrible rendition or not her..
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« Reply #62 on: April 05, 2009, 10:28:01 PM »
It does seem to certainly be Marguerite..just not a flattering drawing.

that is a very strange necklace. Anyone know anything about it?
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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #63 on: April 06, 2009, 12:35:14 AM »
GREAT pic MC.

this is either a terrible rendition or not her..

That's Queen Marguerita of Italy.

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« Reply #64 on: April 06, 2009, 12:55:44 AM »
GREAT pic MC.

this is either a terrible rendition or not her..

That's Queen Marguerita of Italy.

Makes sense sveta..although it was with a set of other French Royals.
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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #65 on: April 06, 2009, 01:54:41 AM »
GREAT pic MC.

this is either a terrible rendition or not her..



It looks also to me to be Queen Margherita of Italy.

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« Reply #66 on: April 06, 2009, 03:31:56 AM »
although her mouth is so much like marguerite orleans.
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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #67 on: April 06, 2009, 04:43:01 AM »
although her mouth is so much like marguerite orleans.

... but Marguerite didn't have such a big nose. It almost reminds me of Princess Clémentine's nose ... :-)
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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #68 on: April 06, 2009, 04:50:49 AM »
I agree with you. This is a young Margherita of Savoy, not Marguerite Nemours. The princess did have a strong nose.

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2009, 09:59:44 AM »
A lovely miniature of little Minette :


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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2009, 05:18:45 PM »
Lovely indeed Agneschen! Is it part of a bracelet with miniatures of his grandchildren that belonged to Louis Philippe? I think there were four bracelets with miniatures of all of them that were auctioned recently...

Drawing of Marguerite and her sister Blanche


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« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2009, 07:49:11 PM »
Lovely indeed Agneschen! Is it part of a bracelet with miniatures of his grandchildren that belonged to Louis Philippe? I think there were four bracelets with miniatures of all of them that were auctioned recently...

You are right Veronica. The bracelets were auctioned at Christie's a few months ago. A pity they did not stay in the family - such lovely mementoes.

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #72 on: April 26, 2009, 05:02:39 AM »
Agneschen or Veronica, could you please show me the miniatures of the other grandchildren, especially the one of Alencon?
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« Reply #73 on: April 26, 2009, 06:23:43 AM »
There you are Marie - Marguerite's siblings Eu, Alençon & Blanche (from left to right) :



You can see the bracelets on Christie's website. They also have 2 previously unknown (at least to me) portraits of Helene Schwerin & Victoire Nemours by Sir Wm Ross and many other things. Many of the miniatures on Queen Marie Amélie's bracelets are copied from Winterhalter (Léopold & Philippe Belgique, Clotilde & Amalie Coburg ...)
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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #74 on: June 18, 2009, 02:11:25 PM »
One more photo of Marguerite's spouse Wladislaw:



And her son Adam