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Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« on: January 16, 2006, 04:52:33 PM »

On this site I found that Pr. Louis of Orléans, Duke of Nemours was twice married and fathered a daughter Claes from this 2nd marriage.
I never heard he got married again after the death of Victoria of Saxe Coburg.
Would it be just an affair that he had and the site calls it a marriage ?
Does anyone know anything about this daughter, what happened to her, did she got married, have children , etc ?
http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=pt;i=143286

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2006, 05:07:40 PM »
Hi YaBB_Jose.  :)

I've taken a look round and no other site displays a second marriage and child. I think you're probably right and it was in fact an affair.  ;)
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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2006, 06:15:40 PM »
I have never heard of a second marriage either though I have read a lot about King Louis-Philippe and his family. Nemours had several affairs before his marriage to Viktoria of Saxe Coburg (maybe also after ?) and may have fathered a child with some of his mistresses.

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2006, 05:51:10 AM »
Could you tell me more about Victoria, Duchesse de Nemours?

Somebody posted some facts about Victoria - I guess something that Queen Victoria wrote about her. But I can't find it anymore.

Is there something else known about her short life?

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2006, 06:02:02 AM »
Iam searching information about Princess Blanche d' Orleans (1857-1932).  She was the daughter of Louis, Duke of Nemours and his wife Victoria of Saxe Coburg. I know her mother died two weeks after her birth. Her aunt, Princess Clementine in her letters to Queen Victoria mention Blanche  very poor health and difficult character. Blanche died unmarried.

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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2006, 09:38:27 AM »
Dear Paola,

in this site you will find one pic of Blanche:

http://www.royaltyguide.nl/images-families/bourbon/bborleans2/1857%20Blanche.jpg

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2006, 05:17:23 AM »
Hello,

Iam searching for information and pictures of Victoria, Duchess of Nemours (1822-1857). I know she died only some days after the birth of her daughter Blanche. What was the cause of her death?

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2006, 06:20:19 AM »


Viktorie Auguste Antoinette von Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha, later Victoire duchesse de Nemours!

Victoria was born in Vienna, 14 february 1822. She was daughter of prince Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha by his wife, the catholic hungarian noblewoman Maria Antonia Gabriela von Kohàry of Csabrag. On 17 april 1840, in Saint Cloud, Victoria married Louis d´Orleans, duke of Nemours.




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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2006, 09:53:17 AM »
Dear Paola,

here is a link to an English website where you can see a monument of Victoire which used to stand over her grave in Weybridge Chapel. Agneschen told me that it is now in a museum. So it's definitely not her tomb.

http://www.artandarchitecture.org.uk/search/results.html?ixsid=iNxPU1tJXE8&qs=nemours
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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2006, 11:31:25 AM »
Queen Victoria and Victoire were very close with QV referring to her as 'that Angel' and her 'much-beloved Vecto'. QV had been delighted by her marriage and shattered by her sudden death. She wrote they had been 'just like sisters'. This is a famous portrait of Queen Victoria and her cousin Victoire painted by Winterhalter. It was painted for QV as a birthdya present to Prince Albert in 1852--Victoire also being his cousin.



Here's a slightly larger image of the effigy

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/walker/collections/research/uncatalogued/chapu.asp
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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2006, 11:46:27 AM »
Victoire's children:

1) Louis Philippe Marie Ferdinand Gaston, Comte d'Eu (1842-1922); m.Rio de Janeiro 15 Oct 1864 Isabel, Princess Imperial of Brazil (1846-1921); had issue

2) Ferdinand Philippe Marie, Duc d'Alençon (1844-1910); m.1868 Sophie Dss in Bavaria (1847-1897); Sophie was the sister of Empress Elisabeth of Austria. They had the following 2 children:

Louise (1869-1952); m.1891 Alfons of Bavaria
Philippe Emmanuel , Duc de Vendôme (1872-1931); m.1896 Henriette of Belgium (dau. of King Leopold II of Belgium, another Coburg relation)

3) Marguerite Adélaide Marie (1846-1896); m.1872 Pr Wladislaw Czartoryski

4) Blanche Marie Amélie Caroline Louise Victoire (1857-1932)

Victoire died when her youngest daughter was a few weeks old. She died at Claremont House in England.


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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2006, 08:18:09 PM »
Victoire's many descendants include the Fürst von Thurn und Taxis, the King of Bulgaria, Archduke Joseph of Austria, Duke Friedrich of Württemberg, The Duke di Puglie, The Duke of Noto, the Prince Imperial of Brazil and many more.

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2006, 03:31:33 AM »

Victoire died when her youngest daughter was a few weeks old. She died at Claremont House in England.


The cause of her death was an emboly.
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2006, 01:03:12 AM »
Is it possible that on the picture of the wedding of Louis & Victoire Nemours, is there also Victoire's mother?

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Re: Duke Louis de Nemours, and his family
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2007, 09:33:48 AM »
Inside Issue LIV (December 2006) of The European Royal History Journal there is a lovely photo of Victorie Nemours with her sons Eu and Alençon from around the time of her death.  It is an incredibly rare early photograph of her.

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