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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2004, 03:27:51 PM »
I guess I'll have to stop because Uncle V's earlier message, giving us leave to heap everything on his shoulders, has mysteriously disappeared. Maybe it will reappear for Alexandra and Alice to review at their sled-and-snow summit?!


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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2004, 03:48:40 PM »
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Are we going to hear about how Uncle Francesco escaped the Bolsheviks or not?


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Yes, I would also like to know... You never know when you might end up in a situation like that.
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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2004, 04:30:18 PM »
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I guess I'll have to stop because Uncle V's earlier message, giving us leave to heap everything on his shoulders, has mysteriously disappeared. Maybe it will reappear for Alexandra and Alice to review at their sled-and-snow summit?!



And to think of the plots that can be made on an innocent  two-horse open sleigh....

I wonder if Alexandra and Alice ever visited Tijuana, They would have been really popular smugling babies over the border..

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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2004, 04:35:36 PM »
Well, baby-smuggling is a very lucrative business, I hear.  Someone's got to pay for all those royal jewels.

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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2004, 07:04:55 AM »
did the song once upon a december really exist?

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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #50 on: April 03, 2004, 09:03:21 AM »
Wasn't that song part of the animated Anastasia movie?

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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #51 on: April 03, 2004, 03:51:35 PM »
Yes, "Once Upon a December" was written specifically for the movie "Anastasia." It was written by Lynn Ahrens and Stephen Flaherty.

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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2004, 06:06:34 PM »
In 1947-8, I was told two of  Nicholas II's children escaped the execution of the communists, so, it did not surprise me when I read  in the newspapers the report which stated two of Nicholas II's childen were missing from the shallow grave revealed to the public in the 1990s.
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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2004, 06:10:43 PM »
I'm just wondering who told you this?

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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2004, 07:09:05 PM »
A question  I wish I could answer.  I don't think I knew who the man really was nor how he knew what he did.  All I know is, he was a friend of my grandfather who told me I was supose to remember the story because it was important to remember.  

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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2004, 07:16:35 PM »
Today is my first day, it's been intertaining, and, I hate to leave but the chicken needs to be prepared for tonight BBQ.

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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2004, 04:45:24 PM »
Did he say which two children had escaped, or anything else about it?

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« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2004, 08:36:17 PM »
So true, and my leg of lamb is about time...
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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2004, 02:20:51 PM »
The chicken we BBQ was excellent,  as was the fried rice etc. .  

Since  I think a barb  like "my great grandmother Broomhilda Fizzlestick was Anastasia" is NOT a  worthy comment for this well intended discussion board, I will make no farther reference toward it nor toward other remarks that ring with  this kind of nonsense.

For farther reference,  I am not  just dropping a statement and running off never to return.  And, as far as I know,  I am quite stable in mind and spirit.

One of my failures is my constant hunger to know  what are the truths and what are the red herrings of  the events which lead up to and occured after the night of 16/17 of July 1918 in the House of Special Purpose in Ekaterinburg.

This leads me back to where I left off before I had to leave to cook dinner.

In 1948,  I was only six years old.  Hardly old enough to understand what I was told about people in a far away country about something that happen long before I was born.

There was a name given to the gentleman who told me the story.  A name which I have long forgotten and have assumed since that the name given  was probably not his real name.  So, for the sake of this conversation, let me give him a label,  let me call him Mr. XXX.

I do known:  Mr. XXX spoke three lanuages while I was in his presents: English, German and what I thought was Russian.  

I do know: My grandfather  was born in Russia and  one of his brothers was an officer of the White Army which  entered Ekaterinburg in July of  1918.

Perhaps with the help of people reading this, we can discover who Mr. XXX was and why a six year old was told the story so long after the event.

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Re: Did any of the Romanovs survive?
« Reply #59 on: April 14, 2004, 02:28:26 PM »
Lisa Davidson posted this in another thread about why people wanted to believe Anna Anderson, I think it applies to why many of the emigres repeated stories of survival, and I think the same idea answers your last question:
"I've always believed so many people believed AA because the idea that the entire Imperial Family was murdered was so difficult for the Russian emigre community to fathom. Denial as we now know is a necessary part of the grieving process. Peter Kurth tells us the story of Anastasia is really a story of emigres and he is right.
 
So, while we don't see the resemblance (no one I know does), for people who had lost their country, their leader, their homes, and most if not all their material assets - the idea of one grand duchess surviving was just too compelling to pass by."