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Topic: Secret Plot to Save the Tsar-by Shay Mcneal  (Read 19867 times)
« on: February 19, 2004, 07:07:33 PM »
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Has anyone read the book by Shay McNeal titled "The Secret Plot to Save the Tsar: New Truths about the Romanovs"?  And if so, what are their opinions on the book.  To me it seems very well researched with ample documentations, although the author seems to repeat her own opinions often.  If many of these "sources" and bits of information in the book are to be believed, it throws new light on many aspects of the case thought to have been "accepted fact"  I find especially interesting the excerpts of intelligence letters from various governments and officials to each other after 1918 concerning the Romanov family.  It also raises questions about the real role that Lenin played in the dissapearance of the family.  Any opinions?
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« on: February 24, 2004, 09:01:19 PM »
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Chris, I am currently reading "The Secret Plot to Save the Tsar".  Haven't got very far, but I'll try to post some thoughts after I finish.  Just wanted you to know that someone else out here has heard of it.  Wink
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« on: February 24, 2004, 09:15:57 PM »
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In Britain is is titled THE PLOTS TO SAVE THE TSAR. [2001] It does deal with different "plots".
Despite the cover blurb "The truth behind the disappearance...etc." it  comes up with no definite conclusions.  Well researched, worth a read if one is interested in the plots & conspiricies side of the story.
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« on: March 12, 2004, 06:02:09 PM »
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With the Stanford-Los Alamos National Laboratory paper discrediting Gill and Ivanov, suddenly 'what if' has a new and clearer meaning. . .
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« on: March 19, 2004, 01:37:31 AM »
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However, the seeds from that tree do .
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« on: March 20, 2004, 10:30:28 PM »
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If you want to read the book, don't pay retail or borrow it from a library or a friend. It's not a very good book.

McNeal was not interested in anything but her own idea of what may have happened - and certainly not the truth.
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« on: March 21, 2004, 01:41:36 PM »
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It is harmless fluff. Easily found in used book stores. I found it entertaining. Of course it is totally discredited, if it was ever taken seriously in the first place.
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« on: March 21, 2004, 04:39:23 PM »
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And how was it discredited?  By Gill and Ivanov?

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« on: March 22, 2004, 01:19:00 AM »
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In my opinion, the notes are sloppy & the bibliograghy is a blatant copy.
Other than that, it was not taken seriously by legit reviewers.
There is honest criticism as well as prejudice. Perhaps I am prejudiced. I found the book faulty
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« on: March 22, 2004, 06:26:16 PM »
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Interestingly, the same can be said for virtually every book published about the Imperial Family in the past 20 years.   Wink
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« on: March 23, 2004, 01:15:09 AM »
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Only the past 20 years, Rodger?
I did say I may be prejudiced. Even about some of the postings on this board.
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« on: March 23, 2004, 07:17:17 AM »
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I was being . . . charitable.
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« on: July 11, 2004, 01:08:16 PM »
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My copy is titled:
THE PLOTS TO RESCUE THE TSAR by Shay McNeal.
Published 2001.

Same book?

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« on: July 11, 2004, 01:24:25 PM »
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In Britain is is titled THE PLOTS TO SAVE THE TSAR. [2001] It does deal with different "plots".
Despite the cover blurb "The truth behind the disappearance...etc." it  comes up with no definite conclusions.  Well researched, worth a read if one is interested in the plots & conspiricies side of the story.


Apparently it's the same book.
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« on: July 30, 2004, 12:57:32 PM »
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It is the same book..UK edition published almost a yr before the US edition.  A blend of  National Enquirer and Popular Mechanics.  Some errors in the UK version corrected in US book.  Elizaveta


If it is the same book, they didn't catch all the errors in the US edition.  I've tried several times to read this, but have never been able to get past the firs few chapters due to the incorrect information I come across.  I think I drew the line and finally put it down when MA was referred to as "Prince" Michael and not Grand Duke.  Might seem trivial to some, but imho if one's going to write about the IF, at least get their titles right.  Needless to say, I'm happy the book was given to me and I didn't wast the $25 on it.

Alexa
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