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Re: Archduke Rainer (1783-1853), family and descendants
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2006, 05:59:17 AM »
I was not able to see the pictures that were posted here  (they came upm blank on my screen) I have a picture of Ardchduke Ernst and one of his son Ernő they look very similar. My pictures are not on this computer, but I can get to them, I will post them.

Could whoever posted the pictures on this thread please e-mail them to me? I would love to see them!

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Re: Archduke Rainer (1783-1853), family and descendants
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2006, 10:44:12 AM »
Hello dear members,


Here are all descendants of Clothilde von Wallburg


ISSUE  of Clothilde von Wallburg Habsburg:


Clothilde von Wallburg Habsburg, b at Laibach 12 aug 1863, d at Trieste 1 Jul 1953,
m 1st at Absa  m Tyrol 18 aug, Sedul Pegger (b1841; d at Gnes nr Bozen 5 jan 1891) m 2ndly at Wien 11 May 1898 Eugen
         Szimic Edler  von Majdangrad (b at Brescia 24 Aug 1846)

 an had  this issue:

   1a- Walfried Pegger, b at Lienz oct 1885, naval officier, d in the Atlantic Ocean in 1914
   
   2a- Edith Pegger, b at Lienz 6 oct 1888 d at Trieste 16 Oct 1979,
   m at San Remo 12  Dec 1907 Alessandro Caravadossi dei conti d'Aspromonte  dei baroni di Toetto della Scarena,
      an had this issue
2.1- Laura Caravadossi b at Varazze  19 jun 1909 m.4 apr 1934 prof. Matteo Falletta
2.2- Vittoria Caravadossi b at Sampierdarena  22 dec. 1914 m. avv. Leonardo d’Alessandro
         2.3- Adriana Caravadossi b at Bressanonne 13 nov 1919 m.Anselmo Sigovini
2.4- Roberto Caravadossi b at Massa Carrara 10 may 1924 m. 29 nov 1952 Francesca Paola Barbiera
   2.4.1 Alessandro Caravadossi b at Palermo 3 oct. 1953


   3a- Lydia b at Lienz  8 Mar 1890 d at Roma 3 Jun 1982,
   m at Formia 29 Jun 1911 Vittorio Benedetto Amari (b at Partanna, Trapani 2 oct 1860, d at Partanna 2 Avr 1921)
   and had this issue
   3.1- Michele Amari b at Partanna 1912- d at Roma 2005 m  1938 Anna Frasca
      3.1.1 Maria Lilia Amari  b1937 d 2   m  1966 Filippo Rotondo
         3.1.1.1 Raffaella Carlotta Rotondo b 1966
         3.1.1.2 Giovanni b 1968
      3.1.2 Eugenio Amari b 1938 m Cristina Gatta
         3.1.2.1 Michle Amari b,1972  m 2002 Laura Zampino
            3.1.2.1.1 Gabriele Amari 2005
         3.1.2.2 Carlo Amari  b. 1975
      3.1.3 Massimo Amari b 1940 m 1981 Edvige dei conti  Piccinelli
         3.1.3.1 Michele Amari b.1985

   3.2- Sedulio Amari b at Partanna  1914- d 1998 m  1939 Anna Rizzo b1914
      3.2.1 Benedetto Amari b 1940 m Margarita Parker
         3.2.1.1 Anna Cecilia Amari  b 1971
         3.2.1.2 Sedulio Alessandro Amari b 1974 m 2005 Alexandra Buffardi de Curtis
      3.2.2 Lydia Amari b 1941 d 1970 m Salvatore Busardň
         3.2.2.1 Roberto Busardň b 1965
         3.2.2.2 Loredana Busardň b 1968
      3.2.3 Adriana Amari b 1943 m 1964 barone Rosario Rampolla di Sant’Agata
         3.2.3.1 Filippo Rampolla di Sant’ Agata b 1965 m Maria Rampolla del Tindaro
         3.2.3.2 Sedulio Rampolla di Sant’Agata b 1966
         3.2.3.3 Rodolfo Rampolla di Sant’Agata b 1968
         3.2.3.4 Ugo Rampolla di Sant’Agata b 1971


3.3      Domenico Amari  b at Agrigento 11.feb,1915 m. 16 jun 1951 Elisabetta Capua b Bagnara Calabra 28 oct 1926
   3.3.1 Benedetta Amari b at Florence 27 may 1952 m at Naples 5 apr 1975 Ugone Spinelli Barrile, XI Duca di Marianella
      3.3.1.1 Francesca Elisabetta  Spinelli Barrile di Marianella b at Naples 12 feb 1977
      3.3.1.2 Violante Spinelli Barrile di Marianella b at Milan 11 dec. 1978
      3.3.1.3 Giovanni Battista Spinelli Barrile di Marianella  b at Lucca 7 aug1984
      3.3.1.4 Desideria Spinelli Barrile di Marianella b at Rieti 21 sept 1990
   3.3.2 Monica Amari b. at Florence18 nov 1953 m at Loconovo degli Amari (Trapani) 31 dec 1980 marchese Marcello Staglieno b in Genova 17 dec 1938
      3.3.2.1 Pierdomenico Staglieno b 21 feb 1984
3.3.3 Emerico Amari b at Florence 3 dec 1955 m at Rome 14 dec 1991 Francesca Carrobio dei conti di Carrobio
   3.3.3.1 Elisabetta Amari b at Milano 21 dec 1997
3.3.4 Maria Selvaggia Amari b at Roma 9 jul 1959 m. at Gironico al Monte (Como) 16 jun 1984 Francesco Bellini Cavalletti b at
               Milano 19 may 1955
   3.3.4.1 Luigi Bellini Cavalletti b at Milano 11 sept 1985

3.4-   Franca  Amari b at Palermo 917 d at Roma 1996 m 1938 at Partanna Diego Gandolfo b 1909 d 1987
3.4.1 Gabriella Gandolfo b 1939 m 1972at Roma barone Diego Mazzonis di Pralafera
   3.4.1.1 Flavia Mazzonis di Pralafera b 1975
   3.4.1.2 Chiara Mazzonis di Pralafera b 1977
   3.4.1.3 Emanuela Mazzonis di Pralafera b 1980

3.4.2 Ignazio Gandolfo b 1942 m 1968  Brunella Vago
   3.4.2 1 Irene  Gandolfo b1968
   3.4.2.2 Elena Gandolfo b1970
   3.4.2.3 Diana Gandolfo 1972

   3.5    Maria Clotilde Amari b at Partanna  10 jun 1920 m at Partanna  Carmelo Oneto dei principi                di  San Lorenzo
      3.5.2 Simona Oneto di San Lorenzo b 1942 at  Barberino del Mugello  m 1968 at Roma Francesco  Pallini
         3.5.1 Fernando Pallini 1969
         3.5.2 Alessandra Pallini 1970
         
      
All these infos were given by Sig.ra Amari.
I want to thank her very much for her reseach!  :)


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Re: Archduke Rainer (1783-1853), family and descendants
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2006, 04:12:51 AM »
Here are finally some of the pictures:


a) Archduke Ernst (1924-1899):








b.) Laura Sckublics de Velike et Besseneyo von Walllburg (1826-1865)




c)Daughter Clothilde (b. Laibach 1863- d. Trieste 1953), married 1 st Sedul Pegger (1841-1891), 2 ndly Eugen Szimic Edler von
  Majdangrad.





d) Their daughter; Lydia Pegger (1890-1982), m. 1911 at Formia Benedetto Amari (1860-1921).






Thanks to Mrs. Amari!
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2007, 08:53:17 AM »
Hi MarieCharlotte,

The portrait is really amazing. Do you think there is a BIG version somewhere???
It seems that Archduchess Marie Caroline is only to see in profile, am I right? I have never seen her face from the front, but that seems to be hard to get a picture of her !? I always only saw pics pf Archduchess Adelheid, who is also the ancestor of the today's Bonapartes, as her daughter Clothilde married "Plon-Plon", nephew of Napoléon.
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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2008, 10:37:34 AM »
Hi,

I just tried to post a bigger black and white version of this painting, but somehow the pic was minimalized. Maybe I could send you an email.

You are right. You can only see Maria Carolina's profile. I haven't seen another picture of her either.
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2008, 02:42:54 PM »
MarieCharlotte,

Yes, I would pleased about a mail with a greater version of the family picture, more in private... ;)

Synnadene, how wonderful that you found that portrait!!!! Nice suprise! The whole site with the link you posted is wonderful! I had never seen those amazing children-portraits of Archduke Rainers kids!!
It seems Marie Caroline had blue eyes, whereas her sister- I was always sure- had brown ones. Funny is the cross in the ear, only on one side (or not!?), which reminds me rather of modern times ;D
Cute picture! Thanks!

I think their mother Isabella had also a daughter from one other marriage, is it not like that? I once had a portrait of mother and daugther, but lost it after my PC crash :'(
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