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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2006, 10:20:15 PM »
Pierce, the bio about Empress Elisabeth writted by Brigitte Hamann, "Reluctand Empress", referes that the empress knew so well that her brother Mapperl was in madly in love with Amalia, but the princess was engaged to Leopold, and Leopold was a suitable match to Gisela...So, the empress sent an invitation to hunting at Gödöllo Palace to prince Leopold. At Gödöllo, Leopold and Gisela became engaged, and a few years later, Elisabeth arranged the marriage of Amalia with Mapperl.

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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2006, 10:25:13 PM »
Sisi was a nice big sister to Max, to sacrifice her daughter in exchange for her brother's happiness. I guess even Clementine cannot argue with the Empress of Austria.

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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2006, 10:27:39 PM »
Thanks Yseult, I read" Relunctant Empress " years ago I had forgot where I got that piece of information from about Leopold and Amalie being engaged. I thank you for reminding me of the source.

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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2006, 04:33:06 AM »
On the web some time ago-I don't know the name of the site,since it was in german,but I know that it was said to be her...

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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2006, 08:37:23 AM »
No I think it was her. Her resemblence to Foxy Ferdinand of Bulgaria was striking ! It could be Foxy in drag !  ;)

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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2006, 08:33:25 AM »
I agree. The girl looks too much like Princess Clémentine not to be either Clotilde or Amalie (I do think she is Amalie).

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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2006, 03:31:20 PM »
Yes...I think Amalie's sister (who married a Hapsburg) was a brunette. while she was a blonde.

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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2006, 03:19:50 AM »
The painting of Amalie Princess of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Max Emanuel's beloved wife, by Winterhalter is currently for sale on eBay !!!

Link: http://cgi.ebay.de/Franz-Xaver-WINTERHALTER-1806-1873-authentic-oil_W0QQitemZ140038744528QQihZ004QQcategoryZ20129QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2006, 08:39:08 AM »
I would like to know if Schloß Biederstein in Münich ,where Max Emmanuel lived with his family still exists? Any pictures?

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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2006, 08:45:55 AM »
I would like to know if Schloß Biederstein in Münich ,where Max Emmanuel lived with his family still exists? Any pictures?

No, it doesn't exist anymore. The park was sold in 1928/29 and some years later the interior of Biederstein was auctioned. In 1934 the so-called "Neue Schloss" was pulled down. The rest of the building had been destroyed during WW II.
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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2006, 08:58:36 AM »
Thanks. Such a pity it doesn't exist anymore. After the death of Max Emmanuel and Amelie, who lived there till the 1920's? Their children? Interesting that the interiors were auctioned. Is there a catalogue of this auction?

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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2006, 10:47:05 AM »
Thanks. Such a pity it doesn't exist anymore. After the death of Max Emmanuel and Amelie, who lived there till the 1920's? Their children? Interesting that the interiors were auctioned. Is there a catalogue of this auction?

Yes, their sons lived at Biederstein. But they didn't have enough money, so the buildings became shabby.

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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2006, 04:38:25 PM »
As to the Winterhalter portrait, Queen Victoria often commissioned copies made of ones she particularly liked, especially in the case of her various continental relatives. In this case, she actually painted the copy herself in 1851. She had it placed in Buckingham Palace and it later moved from there to Windsor and then to Osborne.

Queen Victoria's opinion on Amalie was that she was clever but not pretty.
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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2006, 02:11:12 AM »
That's right. As most of the Coburgs, she had a strange nose. Amalie's niece Archduchess Marie Valérie also wrote that her aunt talked through her nose and that she spoke very slowly. But I think that Amalie's sister Clotilde was quite pretty.
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Re: Max Emanuel in Bayern
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2006, 03:09:30 AM »
The Coburg children took after their mother Clémentine who herself looked a lot like her father King Louis-Philippe. She inherited his somewhat heavy features. They all had the Bourbon nose.