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« on: February 12, 2006, 07:40:57 AM »
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During her lifetime, Anne surname was Boleyn or Bullen?
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« on: February 12, 2006, 08:50:46 AM »
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During her lifetime, Anne surname was Boleyn or Bullen?



Probably both - people weren't very strict about spelling in those days!
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« on: February 12, 2006, 09:37:52 AM »
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I always thought it was originally Bullen, but Anne's grandfather or great-grandfather changed the spelling (and/or pronunciation) to Boleyn, to sound grander.   Also, that Anne was known to many people (who disliked her) as 'Nan Bullen', emphasis on the first syllable.  But maybe someone has better information??
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« on: February 12, 2006, 09:51:49 AM »
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Everything Alianore said is what I have heard...
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« on: February 12, 2006, 11:00:22 AM »
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I think they were just various spellings - it had nothing to do with social climbing.

There were several possible spellings - the name comes from the town of Boulogne in France.

See this link:

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c/qx/boleyn-coat-arms.htm

"Boleyn" seems to have been Anne's preferred way of writing the name, however.
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« on: February 12, 2006, 02:12:10 PM »
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Her forebears were Bullen and then it got "Frenchified" to Boleyn
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« on: February 13, 2006, 06:26:05 AM »
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Yes, I agree with the explanations. I think that in Shakespeare play on Henry the character is called "Anne Bullen".
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« on: February 13, 2006, 02:14:41 PM »
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I get the feeling that historically, her detractors have referred to her as "Bullen", which has a more "downmarket" type flavour to it  Wink
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« on: February 14, 2006, 09:39:00 AM »
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Back then, spelling was far less standard than today, with the result that people's names were often spelled in different, often interesting ways. Of course there were other reasons why names were spelled differently as well. But this predominates. Wink
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« on: February 16, 2006, 12:25:54 PM »
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What's it origin?
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« on: February 16, 2006, 11:59:00 PM »
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What's it origin?


It's supposed to come from Boulogne in France.
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« on: February 25, 2006, 08:55:56 AM »
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thought they called her bullen to insult her Tongue
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« on: February 25, 2006, 01:12:30 PM »
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thought they called her bullen to insult her Tongue
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I'm sorry I just don't see why "Bullen" would be more insulting than "Boleyn"! Could somebody please explain?
(The Popes were quite happy to send out papal Bulls).
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« on: February 25, 2006, 01:15:25 PM »
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i don't know, i saw it on some programme we watched about henry, the people called her the bullen for insult
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« on: February 25, 2006, 05:59:01 PM »
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I'm sorry I just don't see why "Bullen" would be more insulting than "Boleyn"! Could somebody please explain?
(The Popes were quite happy to send out papal Bulls).


I think it just comes down to the way the names sound.  Bullen being coarse and very peseant sounding and Boleyn being more refined and continental.
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