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Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Grabbe
« on: August 15, 2004, 10:00:37 PM »
Hi, I wasn't sure if there was a thread about this book, but I searched all the pages here and I didn't see one, so I thought I'd open this up to anyone who has or has seen this book because I just bought it off Ebay. (It was a narrow win for me too! Were any of you here bidding against me?  ;)) anyway, I heard that it was a pretty good book with some rare pictures so I was very excited when I got it. Does anyone know anything about it, or is it kind of lame? Thanks in advance!

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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2004, 10:17:23 PM »
I didn't find it to be lame. It's mostly a picture book. Grabbe was at Stavka with Nicholas II. I believe the writer is Grabbe's son.

I've had my copy for about 4 years.

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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2004, 10:26:08 PM »
Thanks, Lisa! I'm glad to hear it's a picture book. I can't wait to look at it.

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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2004, 10:31:10 PM »
I've pulled it from the library a few time. It will be a nice edition for you.

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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2004, 09:31:34 AM »
What I found nice about this book, is that the pictures of OTMA are when the girls are older, and you can get a glimpse of their nature and personalty. I'm not sure what page it is on, but there is a picture of Olga and her father, and she is looking very pensive.

Again, enjoy the book.

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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2004, 11:34:08 AM »
Ohh, thanks! The reviews of this book have been really good and I appreciate everyone's insights!

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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2004, 07:40:11 PM »
I have had this book since the year it was published in 1985.

Paul Grabbe has provided quite a number of unique photos of the I.F. One particular photograph (p 56) is very sad IMHO, it shows Alexei playing in the sand , alone, while all the adults are standing nearby watching.

Most of the photograps depict holiday snaps taken on board the Standart or in Livadia.

The author has provided a warm yet simple insight of the I.F. at leisure, and Nikolai's visit to the war zone. His writings are enriched with extracts from his father's diary.

The most telling part of the book for me was the following extract (pp 180-1):

"Why didn't Count  Grabbe try to escort the former emperor? He later told his family that such an act would have been a futile gesture... "
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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2004, 07:42:56 PM »
It's a good book but the photos are often misdated.

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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2004, 08:19:28 PM »
I think the best part about the book is that the pictures are mostly action shots. Like Louise said earlier, you get a glimpse at the entire family's fun-loving personalities.

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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2004, 08:31:26 PM »
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It's a good book but the photos are often misdated.


Sadly this is a fairly common problem with not a few books about Russia. The most common problem is identifying Tatyana and Olga correctly.

Lanie, which photos have you found to be misdated?


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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2004, 09:35:45 PM »
Misdated/misidentified...

Onh pg 39, it says the photo is ofAnastasia, Olga andMaria - but looks to me to be Anastasia, Maria and Tatiana.   I'm not too sure.

Pg 47 - it's Olga and Maria.

Pg 59 - it says it's 1912, but Maria's hair is up and her skirt is long. So it has got to be after 1915 -- but they're on a yacht, identified as the Standart, soI don't know where.  I'd say 1915.

Pg 61 it looks to me like 1913, not 1912 - Tatiana's hair is up.

Pg 66, Maria's hair is up - 1915 or 1916, not 1913.

PG 82, it says it's Olga in the foreground where it looks to me like it's Tatiana.  Looks to be 1916, not 1912.

Pg 97, it'ssaid to be 1913 but looks 1912 since Tatiana's hair is down and in the infamous poofy fashion.

Pg 98, the 2nd photo of Alix with the girls - it is 1914. The photo above it looks misdated too, so1913 maybe.

Pg 99, the 2nd photo of the girls isn't 1912 - again, Maria's hair is up and her skirt is long.

There are others but I'm too sleepy. :)

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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2004, 09:55:29 PM »
Wow LOL. You certainly prepared me for all the mislabled photos! Hehe thanks Lanie

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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2004, 10:08:06 PM »
Thanks Lanie for providing your listing. I never realized that there were so many errors!



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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2004, 12:10:52 AM »
Since I've nothing else to do and I finished my homework, here are more!

pg 101 - Maria's hair is up again, so it's got to be past 1914 unless it's back in a ponytail we can't see.

pg 108 - looks to me like Olga and Maria

pg 110 - taken in1916 at Mogilev.  I've got other photos from this little boat trip and Tatiana is wearing the same thing; the same dress and hat can be seen on pg 148.

pg 148 - I wonder where the heck this was taken, and when.  Looks like the governor's mansion at Tobolsk to me!  Anyone know?

pg 155 - next to Nicholas is Maria, not Olga as the book says; on the far right side is Tatiana and Olga.

pg 161 - photograph taken in 1912, not 1914.


That's it, as far as what I can identify!
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Re: Private World of the Last Tsar by Alexander Gr
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2004, 04:32:03 PM »
Re - 'Why did Count Grabbe not escort the former Emperor...?'    

From my recollection Count Grabbe was one of the members of the former Emperor's suite who skulked away from the Imperial train just as soon as it arrived at the railway station at Tsarskoe Selo returning the recently-abdicated Emperor to his home, family and into house arrest.

However, that said, Paul Grabbe's book certainly does contain some interesting and unique photographs of the Imperial Familyl.

tsaria