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Tatiana with Maria pictures
« on: February 19, 2006, 09:23:08 AM »
I've noticed that Tatiana and Maria were not often taken together on photos. If you observe, you can see more pictures of Tatiana with Olga and Anastasia but not a lot with Maria. Why this ? And does anyone have pictures where the two sisters posed together, please ?
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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2006, 10:11:05 AM »
It's true. Looking at the scarpbooks @livadia.org I could find tons of photos with Olga&Tania, Olga&Maria, Maria&Anastasia etc. But only this with Tatiana&Maria:
http://www.livadia.org/mashka/images/tm1914_1.jpg

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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2006, 10:24:58 AM »
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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2006, 11:58:57 AM »
No, I think that's just Tatiana...

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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2006, 12:26:18 PM »
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this one looks like her and maria

I believe that's either Catherine Schneider or Countess Hendrikova with Tatiana.
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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2006, 05:15:14 PM »
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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2006, 06:15:06 PM »
This is Tatiana and Maria. I said it was Olga and Maria earlier. Sorry...

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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2006, 07:16:48 PM »
Anastasia too

Unfortunately most of the rest of the photos in my photobucket account are formals, and unless OA were there too, TM were never in formals together.  :-/

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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2006, 11:15:09 AM »
They were not generally photographed together because of the age difference in formal photos, and they had other sisters to pose with. In informal photos, it might be because they might not have been as close to each other as to other of their sisters. However, there are some photos of them together, as the Romanovs took many photos. I love formal photos, and thanks to Ritka for posting all those. ;D

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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2006, 06:40:06 AM »
I found a couple on my computer:
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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2006, 09:56:20 AM »
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They were not generally photographed together because of the age difference in formal photos, and they had other sisters to pose with. In informal photos, it might be because they might not have been as close to each other as to other of their sisters. However, there are some photos of them together, as the Romanovs took many photos. I love formal photos, and thanks to Ritka for posting all those. ;D



This is interesting.  Were Tatiana and Maria ever considered 'less close' to each other than the other sisters?

Only having one sister myself, I can't imagine what it would be like having three sisters and what the family dynamic would be like between them.  My aunt has four daughters and a son in exactly the same age pattern as the IF, and I know that my two middle cousins barely speak because they have nothing in common.

Does anyone know anything about this? Were there stronger bonds between certain sisters and weaker ones with others? It does seem strange that there are practically no intimate photos of T&M, and an explanation would be that they simply were not close/didn't enjoy spending time together.

Sorry to take this OT, but it just interested me.

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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2006, 10:32:07 AM »
Well, I think there was a Big Pair, and a Little Pair, and that this was generally observed. It could be a formal generalization, but it could also be a quite realistic divide. This formality is no doubt why there aren't so many formal photos of them together, and informal ones, could be explained by the informal divide of not being that close in personality. The personality's of Tatiana and Marie were rather different, but all of the sisters were unsually close, more so I judge than most sisters.

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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2006, 10:43:51 AM »
I know about the big pair little pair divide, but there seems to be a few photos of Olga and Maria, Olga and Anastasia, Anastasia and Tatiana and so on, but so few of Tatiana and Maria. I'm thinking that maybe there was a specific Tatiana and Maria lack of closeness, even though, generally, the girls are described as being close knit.

I also read somewhere that Maria felt left out a lot of the time, especially when she was younger, as Anastasia and Alexei were closer and Olga and Tatiana were obviously close.

I imagine that it must have been difficult for each sister to have an equally close relationship with each other.  I am sure that they all loved each other the same, but it's highly likely that the sisters had preferences of who they would rather spend time with.  Perhaps Tatiana and Maria just had little in common?

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Re: Tatiana with Maria pictures
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2006, 01:52:00 PM »
It is also true that 16 photo albums (off hand) were taken from Ekaterinburg to Moscow. Going from the Yale albums, there must be 100s of photos in each album. We have only scratched the surface of potential Romanov photos. There could well be a plethora of Tatiana with Maria photos in GARF.