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Illegitimate Children of the French Royals

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Mari:
This is a list of Mistresses of the Kings of France. Perhaps that will help you as you search for illegitimate Children. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_royal_mistresses

   


Mari:
I found something else that may help!


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Louis XIV had 13 known illegitimate children. Most of those were by either Louise-Françoise de Le Baume Le Blanc, Mademoiselle de La Vallière, or Françoise-Athénaïs de Rochechouart de Mortemar, marquise de Montespan, and those who survived infancy were legitimated.

Louis XV had many mistresses, and at least 15 illegitimate children are known. Only one was legitimated: Louis-Aimé de Bourbon (1762-87), called l'abbé de Bourbon, son of Anne Couffier de Romans (1737-1808). His arms, granted in 1783, were: France differenced by an orle and a riband in bend sinister gules. (Michel Antoine, Le Dur Métier de Roi, 1986, p.299).

Charles-Ferdinand d'Artois, duc de Berry and younger son of the future Charles X, had a long relationship in London with Amy Brown, during the Bourbons' exile. Two daughters came of it; when the duc was assassinated in February 1820 in Paris, he asked on his deathbed to see his former mistress and his children and entrusted them to the royal family, which treated them well. The elder, Charlotte-Marie-Augustine (1808-86), was made comtesse d'Issoudun and married to the prince de Faucigny-Lucinge. The younger, Louise-Marie-Charlotte (1809-91), was made comtesse de Vierzon and married to the Athanase-Charles, baron de Charette (the present (1996) French foreign minister Hervé de Charette is her great-great-grandson). In the legitimization letters, Louis XVIII granted to the two young women the following arms: the comtesse d'Issoudun, Azure a pairle couped between three fleurs-de-lys or, on a chief ingrailed of the second three fleurs-de-lys of the first, the comtesse de Vierzon: Azure a tower inclined argent, on a chief ingrailed or three fleurs-de-lys azure. The ingrailed chief recalls the traditional ingrailed border of Berry (although the duke's arms were different), and the charges both recall the arms of the cities. Note that Issoudun and Vierzon are both cities in the province of Berry.

I don't know if your interested in all of this but here it is anyway!

Gaston d'Orléans had an illegitimate son, Louis bâtard d'Orléans (1628-92), comte de Charny. Philippe II d'Orléans had by Mademoiselle Florence, dancer at the Opera: Charles de Saint-Albin, abbé d'Orléans (1698-1764), legitimized 1708, archbishop of Cambrai. By the comtesse d'Argentan: Jean-Philippe d'Orléans (1702-48), le chevalier d'Orléans, grand-prieur de France, leg. 1706: Orléans an orle and a baton couped in bend sinister argent. Louis-Philippe Id'Orléans had by Mme de Villemomble: Louis-Etienne, comte de Saint-Phar (1759-1825) and Louis-Philippe, comte de Saint-Albin (1761-1829), both legitimized 1815.

There are numerous bastard sons in the Bourbon family. Every duc de Bourbon from Louis I to Jean II included has illegitimate sons. Some names of note are: Hector and Perceval, sons of Louis II (Perceval bore on a bend a semy-de-lys, over all three bends sinister PA). Jean I had Jean, abbot of Cluny (†1485, bore France a bend sinister), and Alexandre among others.

One interesting line is that of the comtes de Roussillon, Charles I, duc de Bourbon had by Jeanne de Bournan Louis bâtard de Bourbon (†1486), legitimated 1463, comte de Roussillon: France a bend sinister raguly gules, his crest was a fish roasting over flames! (PA). he married Jeanne, bâtarde de France, natural daughter of Louis XI: France a bend sinister argent, and had only Charles (†1507 s.p.). But Louis also had a natural son Renaud bâtard de Bourbon (†1483), archbishop of Narbonne: Argent on a bend azure a semy-de-lys or and a fillet in bend gules. He in turn had two natural children, Charles bâtard de Bourbon (†1504), bishop of Clermont and Suzanne, both bearing: Argent on a bend sinister azure a semy-de-lys or and a fillet in bend sinister gules, all within a bordure ingrailed of the last (Suzanne obtained permission to bear the same arms from the duc de Bourbon). Another natural child of Louis was Jeanne, legitimated 1492, whose arms granted in 1490 were: Quarterly argent on a bend sinister azure a bendlet sinister gules between six fleurs-de-lys or, and chequy or and sable.

Jean II, duc de Bourbon had Mathieu bâtard de Bourbon (†1505), seigneur de Botheon, known as "le grand bâtard de Bourbon", who bore Bourbon a bendlet sinister. From him also came the line of Bourbon-Malause bore Argent on a bend azure a semy-de-lys or and a riband in bend gules. The line of Bourbon-Busset bears France a baton couped in bend gules, on a chief argent a cross potent between four crosslets or. Originally the Bourbon-Busset arms were Argent on a pale azure a semy-de-lys or and a bend gules, on a chief Jerusalem.

Jean II de Bourbon, comte de Vendôme, had Louis (†1510), bishop of Avranches: Bourbon-Vendôme a bend sinister raguly.

Louis de Bourbon, comte de Soissons (†1641) had a son Louis-Henri de Bourbon-Soissons, comte de Dunois: France a baton couped in bend sinister and a bordure gules (D'Hozier) whose only daughter by his wife Angélique-Cunégonde de Montmorency-Luxembourg was Louise-Léontine-Jacqueline, married to Charles-Philippe d'Albert, duc de Luynes.

Henri III Jules de Bourbon, prince de Condé, had a daughter Julie de Bourbon (1668-1710), Mademoiselle de Châteaubriant, legitimated, bearing France a baton couped in bend sinister gules; married to Armand de Lesparre de Madaillan (D'Hozier).

The line of Dunois-Longueville comes from Jean (1403-68), comte de Dunois, companion in arms of Jeanne d'Arc, who bore Orléans a bend sinister argent . His son had already changed the arms to Orléans a bend couped argent . It ended with Charles-Paris d'Orléans, duc de Longueville et d'Estouteville (1649-72). An illegitimate line from Longueville is Rothelin, which bore in the 18th c. quarterly or a bend gules (Baden) and or on a pale gules three chevrons of the field (Neuchâtel), overall France a bend sinister couped and a label argent (Orléans-Longueville), although the author of the line, François bâtard de Longueville (†1600) bore Orléans a bend sinister couped argent. Charles d'Angoulême, father of François I, had Jeanne, legitimated in 1501, married to Jean de Longuevic and mother of Jacqueline married to the duc de Montpensier; Madeleine, and Souveraine legitimated in 1521.
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http://www.heraldica.org/topics/france/roygenea.htm

The Prussian:
Hi.

Thanks for the response.

The information is interesting, if a little bit confusing (when the discussion of the various coats of arms begins).

One of the more interesting illegitimate children of French royalty (whom I discovered after I began this post) is Charles of Angouleme, the son of Charles IX, one of the last Valois kings (right?).

According to Wikipedia.org, he apparently had sons, but I cannot find any information on that family - can anyone help?





Found at: http://www.corneilledelyon.artvibrations.com/corneilledelyon/artfile1.php

Barry

umigon:

Hi!

In this page you can see further information on Charles IX's descendants:

http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet23.html#H2

By the way, the pic you posted shows Charles, Duke of Angouleme, but it's not Charles IX's son, it's Francis I's youngest son, born 1522 and die 1545.

Hope to have helped you!

The Prussian:
Hello.

Thanks for clarifying that picture, otherwise I would have kept thinking it was Charles IX's illegitimate son.

Further thanks for the information, it's all very good.

My other interest in the illegitimate children of French royalty was whether any of them actually achieved anything? I mean some of them were Dukes, but that was only because their fathers were Kings or Princes.

Did any of them actually make a genuine contribution to history in the way that illegitimates like William the Conqueror, James FitzJames or Don Juan of Austria did?

I can't find one that actually showed any worthwhile skill or talent... perhaps Cesar de Bourbon, son of Henry IV?

Thanks,
Barry

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