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Offline Imperial.Opal

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Imperial Russia's Colonial Empire
« on: March 15, 2006, 03:43:17 PM »
    I am not sure if there is another thread on this subject, I like to find out if Imperial Russia had a colonial empire, the british , french, german and other european countries had colonial empires in Africa.Asia, the Pacific and others parts of the globe.I have never read anything about Russia's colonial history.how about Korea,
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Re: Imperial Russia's Colonial Empire
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2006, 06:50:25 PM »
The Russian Empire was a contiguous empire assembled over centuries of conquest radiating out from the city of Moscow. Its colonies were neighbors for the most part: In the northwest: Ingria, Finland, Karelia, Estland, Livland, Lettland, Latgal, Kurland, Lithuania. In the west: Poland, Red Russia, White Russia, Little Russia, Bessarabia and Crimea. In the south: Ingushetia, Chechnya, Armenia, Georgia, Abkahzia, Azerbaidjan, Dagastan, Kalmikia, Osetia and others. I will not even attempt to list all of the colonial land and peoples east of Moscow as there are so many. The Russian did encroach on the Chinese Empire in the 19th century but these settlements were more like the trading enclave that other European powers had at the same time.  

The only distant colony that Russia had was Alaska along with a trading fort called Fort Rossiya (now called Fort Ross) north of San Francisco. There was an attempt by the King of Hawaii to become a Russian protectorate but this offer was rejected by Emperor Aleksander I.

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Re: Imperial Russia's Colonial Empire
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2006, 10:36:44 PM »
Another fantastic nugget of information. I had never heard that about Hawaii. Can you shed any light on the reasons for the request and/or the refusal? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Imperial Russia's Colonial Empire
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2006, 12:21:35 AM »
   Thanks David, for that wealth of information, did Russia try to conquer  Afganistan in the 19th century. the British army campaigns also failed due to bad weather.logistics.leadership and the Afgan tribes.also the russians invaded Afganistan in 1979 till 19 ??? when they were overthrown by the Taliban and Mujjadeen fighters Regards,  Opal  ;)

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Re: Imperial Russia's Colonial Empire
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2006, 12:30:34 AM »
Hawaii... Not such a big deal compared to Madagascar, over which Peter I planned to establish protectorate. The expedition was almost ready to sail when the tsar died.

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Re: Imperial Russia's Colonial Empire
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2006, 01:10:07 AM »
According to a paper presented by Nikolai N. Bolkhovitinov, Academician, Russian Academy of Sciences:

In 1818-1819, Aleksander I and the Russian foreign minister, K. V. Nesselrode, categorically refused to ratify an agreement to establish Russian protection over the Hawaiian Islands (Dr. Schaeffer on his own initiative occupied Kauai Island and signed a treaty with King Kaumualii to take the Hawaiian Islands under the protection of Emperor Aleksander I).

See these links for more information:

The Russian-American Company in Hawaii

http://www.explorenorth.com/library/yafeatures/bl-RussAmCo.htm

Fort Elisabeth State Park

http://www.billandcori.com/hawaii/r_fort.htm


HAWIIAN TREATY WITH RUSSIA

19th JUNE, 1869
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ON the 19th of June, 1869, a Convention of Commerce and Navigation was duly entered into by His Excellency C. de Varigny, Article Minister Plenipotentiary, on behalf of His Hawaiian Majesty, and M. le Comte de Stackelberg, Russian Embassador in Paris, duly authorized to negotiate in the premises; which said Convention has been duly ratified, and the ratification exchanged, on the 1st of December, 1869, and is, word for word, as follows:

Article I. There shall be a reciprocal liberty of commerce and navigation between Russia and the Hawaiian Kingdom.

Article II. The subjects of His Majesty the Emperor of all the Russias, and the subjects of His Majesty the King of the Hawaiian Islands, shall be treated reciprocally on the footing of the most favored nation.

Article III. It is understood, however, that the preceding stipulations do not interfere in any way with the laws, ordinances, and special regulations in matters of commerce, industry and police, that are in force in each of the countries, and that are applicable to all foreigners.

Article IV. Each of the two contracting parties shall have the power to constitute Consuls General and Consular Agents, in the cities and ports of the States and possessions of the other, which are opened to foreign commerce. The Consuls General and Consular Agents shall not, however, enter upon their functions, except after having been approved of, and duly admitted by the Government near which they are accredited. They shall exercise their functions, and shall enjoy all the privileges, exemptions and immunities belonging to, or that may be granted to, the Consuls of the most favorite nation. In case they should be engaged in trade, they shall not be entitled to the immunities granted to "Consuls Functionnaries."

Article V. In case a Russian vessel should be wrecked on the coasts of the Hawaiian Kingdom, or an Hawaiian vessel on the coasts of Russia, the local authorities shall give aid and assistance for the salvage of the cargo, and for its restitution to its owners.

Article VI. The present Convention of Commerce and Navigation shall remain in force during ten years from the date of the signature and Act. It may be renewed at the expiration of the term of ten years.

Article VII. The stipulations contained in the present Act, drawn in duplicate in the English and in the French languages, shall obtain the confirmation of the respective Governments, and the declarations to that effect, executed in the usual form, shall be exchanged in Paris, within six months, or sooner, if possible.

Paris, 19th June, 1869.

[L. S.] C. de VARIGNY.

[L. S.] CTE. E. de STACKELBERG.

All persons are hereby notified that the said Convention is to be regarded, in all its provisions, as part of the public law of the Kingdom, and respected accordingly.

[L. S.] CHAS. C. HARRIS,
Minister for Foreign Affairs.


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Re: Imperial Russia's Colonial Empire - Africa
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2006, 07:39:43 AM »
In the late nineteenth century, there was an attempt by a cossack-based group to put a settlement in northeast Africa (Somaliland, Eritrea?).  See the recent 2-volume compilation on archival documents on Russian-African relations.

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