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Offline Seth Leonard

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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2006, 07:23:42 PM »
Is Prince Charles wealthy? In Royalty in Exile The Inside Stories of the Ex-Majesties of Europe the author led me to believe that Prince Louis was rather well off. Like he had a yacht and everything. I was just curious because I know that Charles's brother is a librarian and I wasn't sure if that meant that the small fortune that Louis possessed is no longer in existence (or maybe he just left it all to the eldest son?).

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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2006, 02:24:41 AM »
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Is Prince Charles wealthy? In Royalty in Exile The Inside Stories of the Ex-Majesties of Europe the author led me to believe that Prince Louis was rather well off. Like he had a yacht and everything. I was just curious because I know that Charles's brother is a librarian and I wasn't sure if that meant that the small fortune that Louis possessed is no longer in existence (or maybe he just left it all to the eldest son?).

Dear Benjamin,

Unfortunately I do not exactly know, how rich Louis Napoleon was, but the pictures, I have found in old magazines of "Point de Vue" show me a rather well off living. In those newspapers, I all got them at Ebay, there are many articles and descriptions about their living, unfortunately I do not speak french, only italian and Portuguese, so I do not understand every single word sometimes, but I think Louis family as heir of the Bonaparte family was quite rich: The family of Louis Napoleon seem to have owned (I think so) at least two different chateaus, the most important was the one at Prangins, which is was very often mentioned in the old point de vue papers. There Louis had a great salon als a big Library, which is shown there.  I will look up for more infos, if you want.
What concerns Charles himself, I do not know, as he is socialist, he may does not show richness that much. It seems to me for him is it not so important, his father was much more conservative. The old point de vues show him and his wife Alix several times posing before their portrait of Napoleon, which was hanging in their Pranings salon... How the heritage between the children of Louis was divides I do not exactly know, but would be interested in more infos. I did not know that Jerome is a librarian, there are only small infos on him, as he is not married and may be not so important for the magazines, it´s a pity....
I will try to send a Prangins picture here.
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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2006, 02:42:10 AM »


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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2006, 02:44:41 AM »
I think, this already says something about their living...
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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2006, 09:52:12 AM »
Concerning your questions about information about Charles, I must say most of the infos about Charles I found in the internet, before I had internet, I only knew Charles name from the table of Napoleon descendants in the book from Jean Pierre Rioux "The Bonapartes". It´s a good book, but it is only about Napoleon and his family at the time of Napoleon I and Napoleon III, but there are good tables of decendsants of the different siblings of the emperor. In the internet there are some very interesting interviews with Charles, some are quite profound, I can look for the internet pages, but you will also find them if you use "google" Often they are already a bit older, I have collected some of them.
It´s a pity I think, that I have never seen any good picture of Jean Christophe, his son, there are only some picures about Caroline, but also no picture of his youngest daughter Sophie. Any idea where to find? I wrote to him once, but I think he is too busy, he was kind and wrote that he would give me an interview, but he never wrote back to me after that.
Very good infos and pictures, but more about Louis, are in old examples of the point de Vue magazine. I have bought them at Ebay. I only have one new version of point de Vue and I must say in earlier times the magazine seems to have been much better and more profound and historical orientated than today. Now there are almost only pictures about stars and royals and no good descriptions anymore-a bit superficial in my opinion, maybe it has to fit to our "society of fun" today :-X
I once saw Charles in a film about Corsica and I like his appearance, I must say, the seemed very friendly in this film, when he spoke...
Where did you get that he married Francoise Valliccioni only because child Sophie was coming? Is it true? Maybe, but I haven´t read it until now....
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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2006, 04:53:09 PM »
Very interesting information. Thank you Britt 25 ! Merci !

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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2006, 06:46:45 PM »
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Where did you get that he married Francoise Valliccioni only because child Sophie was coming? Is it true? Maybe, but I haven´t read it until now....

I'm sorry Britt, I must not have been clear on what I was saying. I meant to say that I thought it would have been a little more respectable if Charles had married Francoise when he found out that she was pregnant by him. Sort of like Emanuel Filiberto did with Clothide. But it is nice that in time Charles has married Francoise anyways and has given Sophie a father, that's actually very admirable (considering that he didn't have to recognize her as his child).

And thanks so much for the wonderful pictures :), you are quite right, they do indeed give a rare glimpse into the lives of the modern Bonapartes.

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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2006, 07:15:13 PM »
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It´s a pity I think, that I have never seen any good picture of Jean Christophe, his son, there are only some picures about Caroline, but also no picture of his youngest daughter Sophie. Any idea where to find?

I do apologize, the link I posted to Charles's website doesn't work anymore (just realized it when I clicked on it). His political website had a page on his family and it had a one picture each of Charles, his wife, two daughters (plus Anh, forgot about her), and son. I will see if I can find a link to his webpage that actually works.

Okay, here it is Britt: go to http://www.charlesnapoleon.com/pages/article.asp?numero=17&rubrique=famille. I know the pictures are quite small, but at least you can see Sophie ;) and the rest of the family. But Sophie has her hand in front of her face so it sort of ruins the picture. Oh well

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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2006, 07:29:34 PM »
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I wrote to him once, but I think he is too busy, he was kind and wrote that he would give me an interview, but he never wrote back to me after that.

Have you tried Princess Alix, or is it her policy not to do interviews?

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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2006, 03:29:45 AM »
Hi,

No I did not try to interview Alix, I only once wrote to Charles. Yes, I was quite kind and told me, he could also speak german, and it would be allright to him to answer questions, but he never wrote back. I think, he simply forgot it because he has a lot to do, I think he is very kind and and in general he gives intervies, there is also the problem that he is sometimes in France  and sometimes in Corsica, and so he maybe did not read the further Emails of mine.
But on his new website there is also a contact adress. Its a pity that it is so difficult to get to know such kind of people they are always to busy.

One question: Are you really sure that in Charles little family picture there is Sophie? I have read that she was born in 1992 and the person with the glasses and the hand in front of the mouth looks older for me...but I am not sure as the picture is very very small.
I have also a picture of Charles with some young children, I will try to send it, maybe anyone can try to identify the people....
 I think the first child is his son, but the others? Is the second maybe Sophie??? And the third girl...?

Picture is coming later...
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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2006, 03:38:12 AM »
Please look here, maybe anyone can identify the children...first must be his son...


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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2006, 04:25:12 AM »
Some picture of Prangins living:

Workingroom of Louis Napoleon:





Compare:
Charles´ working rooms seems to be a little different... ;)


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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2006, 04:34:44 AM »
Example of the lifestyle of the family of Louis Napoleon, Pragins etc.:











Jean Christophe and sister:




Caroline and her mother Beatrice on a festival of the organisation of Hugo Capet, where Beatrice is some kind of chief and has  special position:

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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2006, 04:43:02 AM »
One picture didn´t work, I hope it works now... ::)

Prangins living....


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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2006, 04:44:47 AM »
Sorry the wrong one, I meant this:


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