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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #510 on: September 09, 2008, 06:19:38 PM »
Beatrice de Bourbon of Two-Sicilies Happy Birthday

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From: http://www.capetiens.com/





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« Reply #512 on: September 12, 2008, 12:16:46 PM »
Thank you for finding and sending those recent pictures!

They are really so great. I haven't looked at the Capetiens site for a long time, so....

I'm sending some more, which are nice:

Princess Caroline:



And also her brother partly to see:





This is a very nice picture, too:

It shows Charles of Bourbon -Sicilies, brother of Beatrice, with his two nieces Princess Caroline Napoleón and Dorothée Cochin, daughter of Anne.

It was the first time for me seeing photos of Ms. Cochin, cousin of Princess Caroline and her brother.



She's also to see here with mother Anne and aunt Beatrice:



A very pretty young lady....

And here Beatrice dancing:




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« Reply #513 on: September 17, 2008, 03:06:43 PM »
Wonderful pictures! Thanks so much for posting them, Dmitry and Britta!

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« Reply #514 on: September 17, 2008, 03:18:45 PM »

Princess Clementine Napoleon with Princess Marie-Clotilde and Prince Louis


Prince Louis Napoleon, Prince Raimundo della Torre e Tasso, Princess Eugenie of Greece holding son Prince Carlo Alessandro della Torre e Tasso, Queen Elisabeth of the Belgians (1952)


Prince and Princess Napoleon with Alain Decaux and Andre Castelot, authors of Le livre de la famille imperiale (1969)


Queen Fabiola of the Belgians, Princess Beatrice of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, and Princess Napoleon (2003)

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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #515 on: October 10, 2008, 05:51:52 AM »
Hey Seth,
Thank you that you posted these pictures here! I did not see them before....I wasn't here a longer time. I have looked through that photo archive and there are a lot of more interestings pictures, also of Princess Marie Bonaparte. As it is an austrian archive there is a lot on Freud and Marie, some rare ones, which I had never seen before.
The ones you posted are some of the most interesting indeed, because they show about the family connections and relationships of them to another. It seems that Prince Louis Napoleón did have contacts with the family of Marie. I am only not so sure how frequent they were, as Marie does not mention her cousins from the Jerome line very often in her memoires (most famous her sentence. "I am the last with the name Bonaparte, if anyone ever writes about me, he shall call my biography "the last of the Bonapartes", as all my cousins do only have the name "Napoleón" ) In earlier times I did not understand why she called herself the last of the Bonaparte and that it was somewhere in a double sense: She was really the last with the name Bonaparte, even when there are a lot of "Napoléon cousins", but she was the last of her line, but also from the character etc she seems to have been the last "real Bonaparte" lady. I only know very few pictures were the families are together and the one you posted is one of them, I think I know also one more with Eugenie of Greece and Prince Napoléon and one with old Marie and younger Prince Louis in "la livre de la famille imperiale". The picture with the author of the family book is also great, as I did not see them before!!! And the belgian connections always nice to see. Thank you for the picture and the link to the photo-archive. It's great!!!
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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #516 on: November 27, 2008, 01:57:57 PM »
HIH Prince Charles Napoléon was in Amsterdam last tuesday where he was awarded with the prestigious "Prix de Rome" on occasion
of the 200st anniversary of the prestigious prize in the world of Art and Architecture,founded by King Louis Napoléon in 1808.

The Prix de Rome was founded here after the french example,founded by King Louis XIV,and consisted of a large sum and the chance
to work in Rome for four years as an artist/architect.The french Prix de Rome ceased to exist,unfortunatly,in 1968.
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« Reply #517 on: December 01, 2008, 03:44:42 AM »
Thanks you for mentioning it here...! I think I also saw a recent article about this. If I find it again, I will post it here....
Thanks Lucien!


I also found this:

Descendant of Napoléon Bonaparte visits FSU
Institute on Napoleon and the French Revolution hosts Charles Napoleon as guest lecturer
Alicia Adams

"Charles Napoleon is the great-great grandson of Jerome Bonaparte, who is Napoleon's youngest brother," said Rafe Blaufarb, a history professor at FSU.

Since Napoleon I and Napoleon II of France do not have legitimate male heirs, Jerome's descendants are the only Imperial Bonapartes in the family line. Since Charles Napoleon is the oldest member of his family, he is currently the closest descendant to Napoleon Bonaparte.

Napoleon has written two books on Napoleonic topics, titled Bonaparte and Paoli, and The Bonapartes: Rebels at Heart. He earned a doctorate in economics at the Sorbonne in France and has held many job titles, ranging from banker to real estate developer.

"He has held a number of eminent positions in international Napoleonic Historical Associations," Blaufarb said. "He is currently the honorary president of the International Napoleonic Society. He is also the founding president of the very interesting association called the European Federation of Napoleonic cities, which groups approximately 40 European cities from about seven countries into an organization devoted to exploring the Napoleonic past that they all share."

Napoleon's lecture answered the question: What does it mean to bear the name Napoleon today? He started with a joke and then explained much of his family history.

"In fact, it's a really good question because when people look at me, they may not immediately realize the relation I have with Napoleon Bonaparte," Napoleon said. "They probably think, 'you're so tall!' or maybe worse, 'you are so little, and you are so tall.'"

Napoleon was born in France in 1950, along with his twin sister, Catherine. He was baptized by Pope John XXIII when he was serving as a bishop in France. Despite the perks of his heritage, he talked about how his life was very protected during his childhood.

"I went to school in a Jesuit school, and my social relations were highly surveyed," Napoleon said. "For instance, I couldn't go out without parties organized to meet girls because of the social origin I had."

In 1968, however, when Napoleon was 18, he started to see the world differently.

"I was surprised by the difference of life that I had in my home and the reality of the world," Napoleon said. "So I decided to leave and do my life by myself."

Although Napoleon is a part of a historically rich and imperial family, he does not consider himself better than other French citizens.

"I refuse to consider myself a member of any royal or imperial dynasty," Napoleon said. "I am a member of this family, but this family is not for me a dynasty in the royal comprehension of the word. I am a French citizen with the same rights and the same duties that all French people have."

Some students consider having the name Napoleon as a way of remembering history.

"Bearing the name Napoleon today means to be part of a legacy, to be part of a time in history when France was at its pinnacle," said FSU sophomore Krysta Markus.

As students learn the history of the world, Napoleon believes that Napoleon Bonaparte is a name they come to know sooner or later.

"Napoleon Bonaparte is a French hero and a military hero," Napoleon said. "He is one of the few historical figures that can emerge from globalized history and culture. Everyone knows Napoleon Bonaparte."

Currently, the Institute on Napoleon and the French Revolution at FSU is the only program of its kind in the United States.

"In fact, you won't find anything like it outside of France," Blaufarb said.

Napoleon commented on the various resources FSU has for students. He mentioned that Strozier library has over nine million books, whereas the university in France only has around one million.

"I am very proud that FSU has an interest in Napoleon Bonaparte," Napoleon said. "I think that the work of historians is to transform the worldwide interest by having a real historical understanding of who he was and what he did."

Students also said that it is important to study Napoleonic history and its impact on the world.

"The significance of studying Napoleonic history today shows recognition of a leader and his examples of military and political genius, which in some ways are still applicable," Markus said.

Napoleon believes that history is very important and connects perople throughout the world.

"In our world, history has to play a very important role," Napoleon said. "From my personal and professional experiences, history is the bridge between the past and the present and the bridge between individuals and our society. There is a very big difference between individual memory and history, and I believe that history is a part of democracy."

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Re: Imperial France: House Bonaparte news
« Reply #518 on: December 07, 2008, 02:28:35 PM »
Wow, what a bonus on this site. I revere Napoleon I and am thrilled to see his legacy still lives though modernized. The only photo of Anh I saw is very sweet and what kind of historical people would be motivated to adopt a Viet Namese orphan. How generous and totally contemporary. I think the unidentified girl in the photos with the 'real' Bonapartes is little Sophie who is actually a Bonaparte. This must be an unusualy good group of people.

It would be terribly interesting to find out more about the Walewskis and other illegitimate branches--their blood is significant too.

Here's something I noticed: the Bonaparte chin which I've seen in a death mask continues to be prevalent  sporadically throughout the generations. What a man Bonaparte was!
I'm redefining myself at present--any suggestions?

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« Reply #519 on: December 15, 2008, 01:56:29 PM »
In general the appearance of Charles differs very much from the one of the ancestor, but yes, the chin with the small lips is still similar to Napoleón and Plon-Plon, even if Charles is more elegant from his stature and very tall....!

Nice and thank you so much for appreciating this topic!!!

Maybe it interests you that the count Walewski has created a wonderful new website on his family, also including rare photos etc.
It's great, just have a look:

www.walewski.org.


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« Reply #520 on: December 26, 2008, 12:35:46 PM »
Charles Napoleon Commences 2009 Manhattan Committee on Foreign Relations Season

10 Dec 2008

The Manhattan Committee on Foreign Relations announced on Wednesday that the organization will be hosting distinguished M-CFR member, Prince Charles Napoleon of France in early 2009.   

The visit of Charles Napoleon, Prince Imperial initiates the 2009 roster of events for the Manhattan Committee on Foreign Relations, or M-CFR.  Though the itinerary of Prince Napoleon's visit to America is undisclosed, Drew Dwyer, new President of the Manhattan based Committee, promised that the event would be towards the beginning of 2009...

Full release: http://www.prlog.org/10153511-charles-napoleon-to-initiate-the-headliners-of-2009-manhattan-committee-on-foreign-relations-season.html

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« Reply #521 on: February 07, 2009, 12:29:47 PM »
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« Reply #522 on: February 08, 2009, 09:06:35 AM »
This is a very nice picture, too:

It shows Charles of Bourbon -Sicilies, brother of Beatrice, with his two nieces Princess Caroline Napoleón and Dorothée Cochin, daughter of Anne.

It was the first time for me seeing photos of Ms. Cochin, cousin of Princess Caroline and her brother.


At the left is Princess Constance of Bourbon-Parma, wife of Prince Charles-Emmanuel. And at the extreme right her aunt Princess Marina of Bourbon-Parma, wife of Prince André.

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« Reply #523 on: February 27, 2009, 08:26:56 AM »
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« Reply #524 on: March 10, 2009, 04:10:25 AM »
Great pictures. The belgapicture site is fascinating...there are also a lot of great pictures of Charles Napoléon, even very recent ones.
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