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The Paleys
« on: August 23, 2004, 03:17:51 AM »
Olga Paley:


The family in 1916:


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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2004, 03:21:22 AM »
Irina at her wedding in 1923 with Theodor Alexandrovich.
From l. to r.: Dmitri Pavlovich, Xenia, Theodor Alexandrovich, Irina Pavlovna, Alexander Mikhailovich, Olga Paley and Maria Pavlovna.
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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2004, 03:25:25 AM »
Natalia:


in 1952:



With her husband Lucien Lelong:




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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2004, 03:33:03 AM »
Vladimir: in 1916


With his nyanya in 1898:

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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2004, 06:38:31 AM »
Wonderful photos Lisa.  Natalie Paley was really beautiful.
Am I correct in thinking that her nickname was "Babe" and that she had a short career as an actress in Hollywood?
Does anyone have more information about her and her sister Irina?
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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2004, 07:37:21 AM »
Natalia was born in 1905, dead in 1981.
She was a model for Lucien Lelong and an actress. She play in Sylvia Scarlett by Cukor (1935)
           L'Epervier by Marcel L'Herbier (1933) with Charles Boyer
          Les hommes nouveaux by Marcel L'herbier
Married in 1927 with the fashion designer Lucien Lelong, divorce in 1937.In 1932, she had a loveaffair with Jean Cocteau.At New York in 1937 she became Mrs John WILSON (1899-1961)

Irina was born in 1903. She was dead in 1990. She divorce in 1936(she was maried since 1923 with Theodor Alexandrovich).In 1950 she became the wife of Comte Hubert de MONBRISON (1892-1981) She have 2 children with Theodor:

-Michel (b. 1924 in Paris)
-Irene (b.  1934 in Fontenay).

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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2004, 09:26:49 AM »
"babe" paley was the famous and fashionable second wife of william paley, the founder of the american radio/Tv network, CBS.  william paley was not related to the romanov family in any way.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2004, 10:11:15 AM »
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Thanks for the information Lisa.  Is there anything in any depth about Princess Paley and GD Paul's second family?

Frederic Mitterrand has written a book called "Mémoires d'exil". It's about the royal families after the WW1. I found my informations here.

http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2266104519/qid=1093274128/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_8_1/171-3726130-1171452

http://www.alapage.com/mx/?id=87491054807505&donnee_appel=KELKO&tp=F&type=1&l_isbn=2266104519&devise=&fulltext=&sv=X_L
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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2004, 12:43:31 PM »
Did the Paley Children got along with thier half-brother and sister?  [Dmitri and Maria?]

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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2004, 12:46:42 PM »
I heard from Natalia Paley's family, the Wilsons during the 1990's. They were delighted to have a Romanov princess as a relative by marriage. They took care of the costs of burying her and maintaining her grave. They sounded like lovely people - and Natalia did her best to make a new life for herself in the United States.

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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2004, 07:23:23 AM »
How did the Paleys fled from Russia after the arrest of the Grand Duke Paul and Vladimir Paley.

And why was the rest of the family arrested as well?

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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2004, 07:38:28 AM »
Olga (his wife) visited Paul until his death in jail in 1919.
The daughters went out Russia by Finland, without their mother and in very bad conditions. They certainly were sexually assaulted, indeed raped for Natalia. The mother and her daughters met again in Paris, when they understood  there was no hope for Vladimir (he was shot in 1918 in Alapaievsk)...
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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2004, 07:59:28 AM »
Hi Lisa,

Where did you got all this kind of information about the Paleys?
Every book I have and on the Internet, there always been a bit of information about them, little by little I learn of this family.
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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2004, 08:02:06 AM »
In this book:

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Frederic Mitterrand has written a book called "Mémoires d'exil". It's about the royal families after the WW1. I found my informations here.

http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2266104519/qid=1093274128/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_8_1/171-3726130-1171452

http://www.alapage.com/mx/?id=87491054807505&donnee_appel=KELKO&tp=F&type=1&l_isbn=2266104519&devise=&fulltext=&sv=X_L


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Re: The Paleys
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2004, 05:48:45 PM »
Poor Vladimir would probably not have been considered a proper match for Grand Duchess Olga as he was the offpring of a morganatic marriage. I think there was considerable animositiy against the Paleys. His half-brother Dimitri apparently was considered a match for Olga, though I don't think she ever was in love with him. She was extremely fond of another Dimitri, her golden "Mitya."