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Topic: Von Hauke, family of Princess Julia of Batteneberg  (Read 4868 times)
« on: April 30, 2006, 02:00:38 PM »
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Can anyone help me locate Princess Julia Von Haucke's missing siblings that the Tsar took in after John Maurice Von Haucke got killed?  I've searched the Web and can find no information on what happened to her siblings; the Tsar took them in...does anyone have any information on these children, names, did they go on to marry commoners, did they keep the Haucke name?

Any direction or help would be appreciated!  It seems when you do the search on this line that it stops at Princess Julia and nothing about her siblings?

This is my first time on this site, so it's possible I have missed prior information regarding this topic.

Thank you for any information you can provide.

 
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« on: May 01, 2006, 05:55:18 AM »
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Uffff...I wish you good luck, Silverstone! I spent a few hours searching for info and I haven´t found a single word about the siblings of Julia. I just can provides you info about her ancestors, but I suppose that you have this info, so you don´t ask about her father, her mother or her grandparents, but only about the siblings...

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« on: May 01, 2006, 07:29:14 AM »
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She is the "mother" of all Mountbatten. You find something about her  at Wikipedia : Julia von Hauke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_von_Hauke
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http://worldroots.com/brigitte/famous/j/juliahauckeanc1825.htm
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« on: May 01, 2006, 08:00:29 AM »
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From Richard Hough's book The Mountbattens, the only thing I could find was that she was one of the children. She was the youngest and just 5 when she was orphaned.
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« on: May 01, 2006, 04:16:47 PM »
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This is in Polish but it seems like it could be about Julie's brother--it mentions her, their father and Tsar Alexander II and the dates seem right. Perhaps someone who knows the language?

Józef Hauke-Bosak (ur. 19 marca 1834 w Petersburgu, zm. 21 stycznia 1871 pod Dijon), genera[ch322] broni, uczestnik powstania styczniowego. By[ch322] powinowatym cara Aleksandra II; stryjeczna siostra Julia Hauke hr. Battenberg by[ch322]a [ch380]on[ch261] Alexandra von Hessen-Darmstadt, brata carowej. Rodzina Hauków - van der Haacken, von Haucke - by[ch322]a pochodzenia flamandzkiego. Do Polski przyby[ch322]a w 1782 przez Moguncj[ch281] i Drezno. Ojciec Józefa, Józef Hauke, urodzony ju[ch380] w Polsce, by[ch322] kapitanem w wojsku Ksi[ch281]stwa Warszawskiego i genera[ch322]em wojska rosyjskiego, a stryj Maurycy Hauke by[ch322] genera[ch322]em napoleo[ch324]skim, ws[ch322]awionym obron[ch261] Zamo[ch347]cia w 1813 roku.

Józef Hauke zacz[ch261][ch322] edukacj[ch281] w carskim Korpusie Kadetów, nast[ch281]pnie Korpusie Paziów i zwie[ch324]czy[ch322] j[ch261] uko[ch324]czeniem Wy[ch380]szej Akademii Wojskowej. W 1855 zosta[ch322] oficerem ordynansowym cara Aleksandra II. W 1859 przeniós[ch322] s[ch281] do s[ch322]u[ch380]by czynnej. Bra[ch322] udzia[ch322] w walkach na Kaukazie z niedobitkami Szamila, w których si[ch281] dos[ch322]u[ch380]y[ch322] dwóch krzy[ch380]y i z[ch322]otej szabli za waleczno[ch347][ch263]. W 1862 zosta[ch322] awansowany na pu[ch322]kownika. Manifestacje patriotyczne w 1861 i 1862 by[ch322]y dla niego wstrz[ch261]sem. Poda[ch322] si[ch281] do dymisji. Zamiast niej dosta[ch322] roczny urlop z armii carskiej. W styczniu 1863 kiedy wybuch[ch322]o powstanie ponownie z[ch322]o[ch380]y[ch322] dymisj[ch281], tym razem przyj[ch281]t[ch261].

By[ch322] naczelnikiem oddzia[ch322]ów powsta[ch324]czych województw krakowskiego i sandomierskiego. Wprowadza[ch322] w [ch380]ycie dekrety uw[ch322]aszczeniowe, przez co pozyskiwa[ch322] ch[ch322]opów. Jego oddzia[ch322]y zwyci[ch281][ch380]y[ch322]y w kilku potyczkach z Rosjanami, lecz zosta[ch322]y rozbite podczas ataku na Miechów (21 lutego 1864). Po powstaniu uda[ch322] si[ch281] na emigracj[ch281]. Bra[ch322] udzia[ch322] po stronie Francji w wojnie francusko-pruskiej. Zgin[ch261][ch322] pod Dijon.

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« on: May 01, 2006, 04:57:04 PM »
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I tracked down another sibling:

Emilie Viktoria, condessa Hauke (1821-1890) m. Karl August, Baron de Stackelberg (1816-1887)
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« on: May 01, 2006, 06:45:50 PM »
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You have all been so helpful...this fills in some missing pieces to the puzzle. My dilemna, my grandmother told me 30+ years ago that our family line (Hauck) went back to this John Maurice von Haucke (my grandfather was a hemophiliac, 6'4 and big big fellow, reddish blonde hair).  She also said that this line came to America and brought with them a coat of arms which is now on display in the Library of Congress and/or Chicago (I can't remember which---but supposedly it tells us which tribe we are from out of the twelve (12) tribes)).

I had this information typed up years ago, but it was lost in a move.  But since I typed it up for her (it was all in handwritten notes) I remembered key details.  I remember from her notes that, I believe, Hans (John) had like five kids...Julie (in her notes it wasn't Julia) was the one that married Alexander, etc., the Battenburg line, and she did have the Duke of Edinburgh in there, etc., etc.  

From this very limited information I was able to go far with my research.  Problem is, the male line I believe comes from one of Hans (John's) boys if that is possible? Did Hans have any brothers?   Did any of them come to the United States or their children migrate to the U.S.?  Supposedly it's a direct line, as she mentioned Sophia LaFontaine (sp?).

She said since we had a direct line we had the right to sign this book at the library relating to this coat of arms, as we can prove our lineage, just it stops in America, I haven't been able to trace it back any further, I'm very limited in my reserach skills at this point.  I was also told of a book by a German Historian, Alalbert Brauer that supposedly charted the Haucke / Hauck family of Wetzlar...I've been trying to get my hands on this book...and have a few leads from some German historians; problem is, I can't read German.  

Again, thank you so so much for all your help, this will go into my "research" file and at some point in time, I hope to have enough time to actually trace my grandfather's line back to John Maurice (in my grandmother's notes he was called Hans).

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« on: May 02, 2006, 05:49:20 AM »
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I found this site:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/4793/acy.html

It lists the following:

Children:
1.  Princess Julia of Hauke (b.11/1825)
2.  Constantinus Hauke
3.  Emilia Hauke
4.  Ladislaw Hauke
5.  Leopold Hauke
6.  Moritz Hauke
7.  Emilie Hauke
8.  Sophie Hauke
9.  Vincent Hauke
10. Alexander Hauke

Julia was the only one with continued information.

For her father it listed:

Children:
1. Christiana Hauke
2. Duke Johan of Hauke (again the only one with continued information)
3. Carolina Hauke
4. Louis Hauke
5. Amelia Hauke
6. Christian Hauke
7. Joseph Hauke


It listed the following contact info for the creator of the site:

Please feel free to e-mail me with comment, suggestions, or possible corrections to the information at the address below.
kenstel@yahoo.com

as well as this related to the Hauke's in particular in the acknowledgements:

1. Ted Elston

Telston@nehp.net

Ted provided information on the Hauke's, a Polish Count.


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« on: May 02, 2006, 04:01:03 PM »
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Thank you GrandDuchessella for your kind information and reply!  I have printed off, now I can go back and research some more!  The Joseph Hauke could be a lead...
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« on: May 10, 2006, 08:44:26 AM »
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I found a little more genealogy information for the Hauke family, from The Mountbattens, by Antony Lambton, p. 232.

Friedrich Karl Emmanuel Haucke or Hauke (1737-1810) m. Salome Schweppenhauser

child:  Maurycy (1775-1830) m. Sophie de la Fontaine, daughter of a French doctor.

11 children:
**Maurycy Kazimierz Napoleon, Capt. Polish Army (1808-1852)
**Leopold and Emilia, twins, (1810-1812)
**Wladyslaw Leopold Maurycy, Lt. 5th Lancers Polish Army (1812-1841)
**Jozef, Lt. 2nd Lancers Polish Army (1814-1831)
**Zofia Salomea Teresa
**Wincenty Walery, Russian Major (1817-1862)
**Konstanty Karol, Russian Lt. of Hussars (1819-1891)
**Emilia Joanna Wiktoria (1821-1890)
**Julia Teresa Salomea (1825-1896) wife of Prince Alexander of Hesse, made Princess of Battenberg, 1858
**Aleksander (1827-1829)

There were also some first cousins listed, but it didn't say who the parents were:  

**Ludwika Adalia
**Teodor Ludwik
**Aleksander Jan Jozef (1814-1868) General
**Salomea Maria (1830-1894)
**Aleksander (1831-1855) Russian Hussars
**Jozef Ludwik (1834-1871)
**Maria (1836-1838)
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« on: May 10, 2006, 09:02:50 AM »
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I found a little more genealogy information for the Hauke family, from The Mountbattens, by Antony Lambton, p. 232.

Friedrich Karl Emmanuel Haucke or Hauke (1737-1810) m. Salome Schweppenhauser

child:  Maurycy (1775-1830) m. Sophie de la Fontaine, daughter of a French doctor.

11 children:
**Maurycy Kazimierz Napoleon, Capt. Polish Army (1808-1852)
**Leopold and Emilia, twins, (1810-1812)
**Wladyslaw Leopold Maurycy, Lt. 5th Lancers Polish Army (1812-1841)
**Jozef, Lt. 2nd Lancers Polish Army (1814-1831)
**Zofia Salomea Teresa
**Wincenty Walery, Russian Major (1817-1862)
**Konstanty Karol, Russian Lt. of Hussars (1819-1891)
**Emilia Joanna Wiktoria (1821-1890)
**Julia Teresa Salomea (1825-1896) wife of Prince Alexander of Hesse, made Princess of Battenberg, 1858
**Aleksander (1827-1829)


This seems to match up with my list:

Children:
1.  Princess Julia of Hauke (b.11/1825) **Julia Teresa Salomea (1825-1896) wife of Prince Alexander of Hesse, made Princess of Battenberg, 1858; age 5 when father died

2.  Constantinus Hauke **Konstanty Karol, Russian Lt. of Hussars (1819-1891); age 11 when father died

3.  Emilia Hauke **Emilia Joanna Wiktoria (1821-1890); age 9 when father died

4.  Ladislaw Hauke **Wladyslaw Leopold Maurycy, Lt. 5th Lancers Polish Army (1812-1841); age 18 when father died

5.  Leopold Hauke  **Leopold and Emilia, twins, (1810-1812); predeceased father

6.  Moritz Hauke **Maurycy Kazimierz Napoleon, Capt. Polish Army (1808-1852); age 22 when father died

7.  Emilie Hauke **Leopold and Emilia, twins, (1810-1812); predeceased father

8.  Sophie Hauke **Zofia Salomea Teresa

9.  Vincent Hauke **Wincenty Walery, Russian Major (1817-1862); age 13 when father died

10. Alexander Hauke **Aleksander (1827-1829); age 3 when father died

so perhaps it's pretty reliable? That's 2 sources with almost identical info, though mine only had 10 rather than 11. Interesting that they named 2 daughters Emilia, albeit one died very young.
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« on: May 12, 2006, 07:07:09 PM »
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This just keeps getting more interesting!  My great great great grandfather, as far back as I can trace in U.S., was "Nicholas Hauck (b. abt 1825 Prussia).

His kid's names: Rosina, Mary, Emelia, Caroline, Julianna, Barbara, Louisa and Joseph.

Why do I get this funny feeling he was closely related (outside of my grandmother saying so?).

If I could just trace Nicolas back to these lines you have given me, it's not that far, it's very close.
There may only be one link that I'm missing.

I really do appreciate the replies and such. I did find a bit more under Julia's family, but gee, someone has a lead on some good info. on this board on this family.

Thanks again everyone.
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