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Re: Airplanes (well, almost...)
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2007, 03:34:54 AM »
The Russian air force during WWI was organized roughly as follows:
The main operational unit was squadron [otryad]. By 1 January 1917, there were 76 squadrons of various types (corps squadrons, army squadrons, fighter squadrons etc.), most of them separate units not united into larger formations. Each squadron was attached to a corps or directly to an army and subordinated to its staff. At each of the five fronts there was Commander of Aviation with his staff. However, their role was mostly limited to logistics, training and maintenance, rather than actual battle operations. All fronts' Commanders of Aviation were subordinated to their Front Commanders and, at the same time, to the Commander of Aviation of the Active Army. This post was occupied by GD Alexander Michailovich (Sandro).

The pre-revolutionary Russian AF was not considered a separate branch of service. Officers continued to carry their former distinctive  infantry, cavalry, Cossack and navy ranks and sometimes weared the respective uniforms (even after a special aviation uniform had been introduced), so a pilot in high cavalry boots with spurs was not a rare view.

As to airships, Russia had 15 of them during WWI, but only one, the French-built "Astra", had actually taken part in bombing operations. Their organization was vague and still considered "experimental" by the end of war. It seems unlikely that the Commander of Aviation and his staff were also responsible for the airships. 

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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2007, 08:18:08 AM »
Thabnk you Mike for all your data! Very much appreciated! I still wonder about the true extent and role Sandro played in the IAF!

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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2007, 09:10:17 AM »
I think his role was on the whole positive. His status as a member of the IF and his direct access to Nicholas II were helpful in such areas as supplies, procurement, awards to pilots, publicity etc. Not a pilot himself and having not flown as a passenger even once during the war, he was clever enough to not interfere in technical and tactical matters. He never pretended to actually "command" the forces, but rather to promote and coordinate. He was also relatively democratic, accessible and behaved friendly and empathically with his men and especially with flying personnel.

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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2009, 08:33:40 AM »
GD Mikhail Alexandrovich (centre) and GD Alexander Mikhailovich (second from the right) with the others, standing in front of " Ilya Muromec":

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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2009, 10:19:06 AM »
GD Mikhail wears his Caucasian "Wild" division uniform with a dagger.

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Re: Airplanes (well, almost...)
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2009, 05:52:42 AM »
"Ilya Muromets" once again:


...and once again:


And this is Igor Sikorsky:
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2009, 06:31:14 AM »
I know a lot more about the WWII planes so what part did the fighter planes of WWI play? And  I think it was said one bomber only was used but how about all the others?

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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2009, 04:03:18 AM »
More pictures of russian airplanes in this album:
http://photoarchive.spb.ru:9090/www/showChildObjects.do?object=2001799077
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Re: Airplanes (well, almost...)
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2009, 10:50:19 AM »
GD Boris, GD Victoria Melita and GD Kiril
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